On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 01:07:00PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > BTW, that's something that would need to be resolved once and for all by > > an SPI lawyer, because a) Mozilla's lawyers consider those icons kocher > > as MPL-licensed icons and b) that's a problem broader than just > > iceweasel, as it concerns any package with references to external > > services (and a recurring question on debian-legal). > > There isn't a legal problem, surely. I can't imagine that ebay or > whoever mind us copying their icon in this way. There is surely a > formal legal copyright licence from ebay which makes the icon > redistributable for this kind of purpose. As for trademarks, we are > using the icon to refer to the organisation in question, so we do not > even need permission (although there is almost certainly a formal > permission document). > > AFAICT no-one has suggested that redistributing unmodified copies of > these icons along with the corresponding search engine thingies in > Iceweasl is contrary to any laws, or contrary to the wishes of the > copyright or trademark owners. > > The problem is simply that the icons are non-DFSG-free.
I'm not even convinced it's a non-DFSG-freeness problem. You know what? (IANAL opinion here) If upstream is telling me these files are MPL-kocher, I have no reason not to believe them. MPL is DFSG-free, right? Now, surely, you can't modify company logos without some legal boundaries, but those come from trademark laws. Guess what, the same freaking problem exists with the Debian DFSG-free logo! I, myself, find our DFSG-freeness pickiness going too far, and I'm sick of this icon thing. So, here's what I'm going to do: unless I hear non-IANAL objection until the next upstream release due on august 11 (and I'm BCCing the DPL in case he wants to have the SPI lawyer(s) look into this), I will remove the replacement of the bundled icons with urls. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150715221703.gd19...@glandium.org