On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 07:08:07PM +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > > > > Of course, the stable amd64 netinst is useful only for VMs. > > > > > > Why? > > It doesn't contain non-free firmware. > > OK, but that's an exaggeration. More often than not I was > able to install Debian without non-free firmware. But YMMV.
Install: usually yes. Have working Wifi: no way (100% non-free firmware required on x86 in my personal experience). Have working wired networking: usually but not guaranteed (yay fetching firmware without network). CPU crashes and data loss: see microcode in Ian's thread. Working display: I had to replace a graphics card because nouveau crashed once an hour while proprietary was stable; on current one nouveau works ok. And so on, so on. Meow! -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Mozilla's Hippocritic Oath: "Keep trackers off your trail" ⣾⠁⢰⠒⠀⣿⡁ blah blah evading "tracking technology" blah blah ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ "https://click.e.mozilla.org/?qs=e7bb0dcf14b1013fca3820..." ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀ (same for all links)