On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 08:21:21PM +0000, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 10:34:05AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > >Holger Levsen <hol...@layer-acht.org> writes: > > > >>yes, I also agree this would work and be better than the status-quo. > >>however I'm inclined to believe doing this and adding a fourth repo, > >>non-free-firmware (additionally to main, contrib and non-free) would be > >>even better and also not need a GR. > > > >+1. I think firmware is something conceptually different than non-free > >software in general, and it would be good to give users a simple way to > >choose to enable non-free firmware without enabling other non-free > >software. > > I agree with Lars, Ian, Holger and Russ. (\o/)
+1 > I should now put my effort where my mouth is, and work on drafting > proposals for the necessary website changes. (That's probably the area I > can best contribute to right now; I'm less sure of the technical issues > involved with a fourth repo. But I'd enjoy to learn if anyone feels like > discussing them here!). I have put some effort on http://stappers.it/ra303/ to solve the problem of getting non-free firmware without adding 'non-free' to apt sources. > >For the discoverability, I would be quite comfortable with putting both > >the free and the non-free download links prominantly on the page with the > >non-free link going to or closely tied with a page that discusses the > >issues, explains why we have this installer even though we don't really > >want to, and maybe links to the FSF Respects Your Freedom pages to suggest > >a hardware alternative. > > Agreed. I would like to be open to the idea that we hosted a page like > that FSF one ourselves, but I think linking to the FSF's work is a good > interim solution (perhaps long term one, maybe we will never get around > to writing our own). > Groeten Geert Stappers -- Leven en laten leven