On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 11:40:52PM +0000, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 05:54:55PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > With my one of most active sponsors hat on: the current policy is that a > > version that has never hit the archive must not have a separate changelog > > entry, unless there are non-negligible users (such as a derivative, upstream > > repository or at least the package being deployed to multiple users at a > > workplace). A past history is more acceptable than repeated attempts for an > > upload. > > > > This is what I was taught, and what I not only recommend but also require of > > sponsorees. There seems to be a concensus on -mentors that this is the > > right way. > > with my sponsoring hat on, I will be unhappy if someone reuses version > numbers and I will ask to never do this again. I very much agree with > Ian's position that this is bad. > > As a sponsor, I'm a non-negligible user and I want to sensible be able > to not having to again review stuff I already have reviewed. > > If you have put it on mentors.d.n, it's out in the public.
As a strict policy this would create more problems than it solves. A version is published to our users when it gets accepted into the archive. Readable information in apt-listchanges is IMHO more important than theoretical discussions around whether something submitted to mentors.d.n is public. A changelog is also permanent, and people might read it decades later for understanding packaging decisions - already today it is not uncommon to check 20 year old changelog entries for that. For either of the above a weird version history or 10 Debian revisions until a new maintainer got her first packaging attempt correct are not optimal. Or a more funny issue: How would you notice a version reuse in all cases? A package uploaded to mentors.d.n. adopting a package with "New maintainer" as only change is usually a reject. If some DD does the same years later, there is no record anywhere that this version was already taken by some random person from the internet who once upon a time uploaded it to mentors.d.n. > cheers, > Holger cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed