I think it's a low blow to us. I think this should have been known from the beginning. We need each of the Debian projects, intervene the Debian itself.
Why don't start a new Debian project similar to GitLab, but based on Debian OS. Regards! Emmanuel El lun., 4 de jun. de 2018 a la(s) 07:47, Dmitry Smirnov <only...@debian.org> escribió: > GitLab is the right technology for us and a good improvement comparing to > Alioth. > > I think it is great that we've chosen GitLab as successor to Alioth but > how > would it make you feel if you were told that Salsa is not running on > Debian? > > That's how I feel... Specifically I'm concerned how GitLab is installed on > Salsa. > > For almost two years I've been administrating GitLab at work. I've > installed > it from official Debian package and helped GitLab maintainer to bring it > to > shape. I've introduced GitLab-Runner to Debian, contributed systemd > support > for GitLab and helped with testing and fixing various GitLab packaging > problems in GitLab, gitaly, gitlab-shell, etc. I had no reason to believe > that Salsa wouldn't use packaged GitLab... It was a big work to get it > packaged due to large dependency tree. > > Official GitLab packages should have become foundation for Salsa, right? > Sadly somehow that's not the case... > > Imagine my surprise when I've found that Salsa is not using our own GitLab > package at all. When at work I was using latest packaged GitLab, Salsa was > using much newer version of GitLab than was available from "unstable" > clearly > installed by other means than using official GitLab package in Debian. > > I would expect Salsa admins and GitLab maintainer to work side by side yet > they are working independently... > > _What makes it OK to run official Debian services on unpackaged vendor > software distributions?_ > > I would understand if there were no choice but Salsa admins clearly chosen > to > discard GitLab package in favor of vendor binaries while Debian's GitLab > package (although not without minor problems) is useful. > At least GitLab package is built on Debian with effort to make it policy > compliant... > > Aren't we sending a wrong message that packaging is not important? > > IMHO we should have been working on improving GitLab package in order to > make > is suitable for Salsa if it is not suitable already. What are the blockers? > Why packaged GitLab is not used to drive Salsa? > > -- > Best wishes, > Dmitry Smirnov. > > --- > > Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking > our potential. > -- Winston Churchill > -- Arias Emmanuel https://www.linkedin.com/in/emmanuel-arias-437a6a8a http://eamanu.com
