Hi Holger, I’ve been totally shocked by the Subject, but reading on…
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 06:01:43AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > Has policy changed regarding support for multiple inits, or is it > > > just that no one is maintaining the shim and sysvinit-core? > > > > The latter. systemd-shim has been orphaned for over 2 years, and has > > RC bugs. … this applies to the shim only. I was a bit surprised seeing on someone else’s system that it was no longer installable, but almost all systemd-free systems of people I know do not use the shim anyway, so I’d take the Subject line with a few grains of salt. With only two modified binary packages (policykit-1 and udisks2) I’ve got a complete KDE environment running, except for network-manager, without the shim. People who do not use the full desktop environments (but the leaner ones, or just a window manager, or no X11 at all) have no problems with the current situation. > > sysvinit currently has two maintainers, but they've only > > ever made one upload (over a year ago). > > It seems that these facts are either largely ignored or unknown and I > wonder if some noise should be made so that interested people can pick > up the work now and not only complain later. Why would sysvinit need uploads? It’s largely working software that needs few changes. I personally find upload frequency as a measurement misused too often: sure, no uploads raises some questions, but more than four to six uploads a year should, in my opinion, raise even more questions (namely whether the soft‐ ware is ripe and stable enough in the first place). > Please reply to debian-devel@lists.d.o if you have to, but probably > replying to those RC bugs is more effective. Also please avoid cc:ing me. OK, but please keep *me* in Cc, as d-devel is too high-traffic for me to be subscribed. Thanks, //mirabilos -- «MyISAM tables -will- get corrupted eventually. This is a fact of life. » “mysql is about as much database as ms access” – “MSSQL at least descends from a database” “it's a rebranded SyBase” “MySQL however was born from a flatfile and went downhill from there” – “at least jetDB doesn’t claim to be a database” (#nosec) ‣‣‣ Please let MySQL and MariaDB finally die!