-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hi,
> I'm hurt reading your message and Holger's. > I wrote to the project saying that the current situation sucked for me. > I got some great offers of help and I think this issue will be easy to > resolve. > > But then I got a message from holger and agreement from you that > basically said "if you did things this way it wouldn't suck." Neither > of you took the time to understand what my concerns are. > You just assumed you knew what my frustration was without asking and > jumped to a solution without actually considering the things that are > important to me. I do not think that this was the intention, at least not as I read it. While the way it was written sure can be interpreted that way, I somehow can see indications that the tone was i nno way related to the topic. Maybe to the bar in the MiniDebConf basement; at least right before I read that mail I saw a very tired Holger stumble by ;). In any case, I think the point here should be - and this, I support very much - is that we should make the process more open for non-DDs, that is, contributors new to Debian (but of course that can be somehow verified as having the true intention to contribute something, and in a way that, for starters, "getting to know some othe rcontributors" can be valued as a contribution in itself, to grow and strengthen the community). tl;dr: let's take the chance to make the community as open as possible (ideally, providing good mentoring at the same time). That, of course, does not rule out any other ideas and concerns on top of that. Cheers, Nik -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJlBAEBCgBPFiEEPJ1UpHV1wCb7F/0mt5o8FqDE8pYFAlz8I7UxGmh0dHBzOi8v d3d3LmRvbWluaWstZ2VvcmdlLmRlL2dwZy1wb2xpY3kudHh0LmFzYwAKCRC3mjwW oMTyluppD/0dFc3TvSmXbhWfV78ugKkTTLNo/0MWTpLx2qvk2V0KNm98+MxL+vBZ hsSKsc2zYcg1Gl9gkf/9QYtxHAmz/VLm97AfMzHC1KEU+i6LDJ2ltU8EXMjC++zh Dn5EwZHCES0zM3qRCm7J6d0HT6EX9aarqqfqzwuaCmHT3zkrRn30oaxZ2IAWQZ3A kLyG88f+9oyIr6EfFv7+9q/9gcNfphqY621CxLeFAXDG5m5w+uzu3taLsoOMDVWM hSiVrHPBeUIe7hv0dAmbD0CyaaqWqBD2bekOUNJCumsW4z7c1Kt1WYHTIMGqCJ9i vh7eRsEd7Nv8BrqZEgPwUe8Xtp2ca6SOGcsjIZcnGuDDDDIydZobwEyd6as/ns1h Vq+o+hoZAdo1WK2NTKx+nCkCNnlSaZb9UXVBdo5oAFySA9mQXw/OAhPGflcas0/p 4lUl/0WEgGe/cfs2a1R/8QGvEg1wLv7d1T6RuT2JqhpVS9uDnl3PnjAhNORh+aeD rYPbXxwEW8gsuqk8wx1l3ejXY++woRy2KsJbIDI19vCquSdkcpwjJ0fCAk9bs0Xr S42OC7JUtT9R+g3qiGvdPt17xwN7Tgkqez+Ki+vBZJjmGUgAnxOdKxHzCHCIyPMQ LaDzp0NZBFGIpvN3aXzcPl+TmHFKIeSP+0E22JzxyyTxbWVI2sV85g== =aDax -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----