On Sunday, January 17, 2021 6:06:15 AM EST Bjørn Mork wrote:
> All these USB devices work only because they come with firmware on a largish
> flash.
That's not the complete case. Of the modern libre USB WiFi dongles I know of, 
carl9170 (firmware for AR9170 chips) is included in firmware-linux-free and 
should be in the installer. These devices are a little older, but support 
802.11n and even dual-band 2.4GHz/5GHz connectivity for some.

The newer flagship chips for USB wireless dongles, ath9k_htc (AR7010/AR9271), 
have libre firmware released by Qualcomm Atheros upon request of ThinkPenguin, 
their employees, and other interested parties. This firmware isn't included in 
the installer or installed by default with firmware-linux-free yet, but is 
provided by the firmware-ath9k-htc package I maintain.

A takeaway from Theo de Raadt and the OpenBSD Project's successes on wireless 
devices is that it doesn't hurt to ask. IMHO, a message in the Debian 
Installer should be clear to place blame on the device manufacturers, 
something I don't think the current message about nonfree firmware emphasizes,

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