[ Catching up on this thread a little late... ] Ansgar wrote: >On Fri, 2021-01-15 at 15:30 +0000, Jeremy Stanley wrote: >> On 2021-01-15 12:11:06 +0100 (+0100), Emanuele Rocca wrote: >> [...] >> > So the current situation is that we make an active effort to >> > produce two different types of installation media: one that works >> > for all users, and one broken for most laptops. >> [...] >> >> The one you say "works for all users" doesn't "work" for me because >> it contains proprietary closed-source software I don't want. > >Then don't install them? > >Debian's Social Contract states "We encourage CD manufacturers to read >the licenses of the packages in these areas [non-free & contrib] and >determine if they can distribute the packages on their CDs." Maybe we >should do that for the CD images we manufacture? :)
There's a major difference here - do we want Debian's *official* media to include non-free stuff? We've had this discussion a few times, including in person back at DC15 at least. Back then, the overwhelming response was *no*. We can change that, but it's not something to do lightly. We *can* do a better job of pointing people at the media with non-free firmware included. I've added a few more links in various places, but IMHO we desperately need a better set of download (etc.) pages rather than just bodging changes in to the existing inadequate pages. See #819664, for example. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. st...@einval.com "You can't barbecue lettuce!" -- Ellie Crane
