❦ 23 janvier 2021 15:39 +02, Jonathan Carter: > But the sentiment above and in other similar messages were that the > completely free images are broken for many users that might need some > non-free firmware. This is simply not true. I've only ever installed > using the free images, and then afterwards just install the firmware > packages I actually need. On all my thinkpads this was typically just > the intel wifi firmware, which is super quick and simple, on my AMD > laptop I needed some amd graphics firmware which wasn't on the media, > but also a very quick install and it works flawlessly, so I think > implying that the free images are completely unusable for people who > might need firmware is an unreasonably large stretch. I also like that I > know exactly which non-free firmware packages are installed on my > system.
This is an anecdotical evidence. To my knowledge, it's not possible to make a wireless card work without a proprietary firmware. As laptops are getting thinner, the Ethernet port is getting away and dongles to get port the RJ45 port are not bundled anymore. > Again, I'm not saying that there shouldn't be images that contain > non-free firmware, but dismissing the images that don't have firmware on > as useless is harmful and misleading. If a novice user is presented with "download this image if you need non-free firmware", "download this image otherwise", they will likely choose the second, won't they? We would just succeed in confusing our users and send them to a more friendly distribution. As for myself, firmwares were burnt in a ROM before, they didn't get less free by being side-loaded but at least they can now be updated. So, I really don't care about how many firmwares I have on my laptop. -- Avoid temporary variables. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plauger)