On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 01:01:08PM -0600, rhys wrote: > > <snip> > > > > Since you still offer 32bit machines of which Debian has enough of. (64 bit > > kernel probably but it doesn't matter) where it does not matter at all. > We don't particularly need 32 bit hardware at the moment, as far as I know.
> Then let me be clearer. > > I should have changed the subject line, because I was not attempting to > address the build problems brought up in the original topic. I have done so > now. > > Let me say that again another way: I was changing the subject of the > conversation away from the build issues mentioned previously. > > I did not mean that offering additional resources would solve known build > problems. > I think this is the crux of the matter: there are several packages which are problematic - packages needing significant memory resources which are marginal on 32 bit hardware (and often are now built on 64 bit hardware). > What I mean was, "Here is a resource that appears to be scarce from my > perspective. You may use it if you wish." > Thank you for your offer: the resource _is_ scarce, not least because 32 bit hardware is now >> 10 years old and have generally been replaced by 64 bit processors for most purposes. Even if you can make it avaiable to the Debian system administrator's team [DSA] and run it 24/7, it might still end up being unreliable. Your willingness to help is noted and appreciated but it may be too late at this point. <snip> > > I have and use 32-bit systems. I would like to keep using Debian on those > systems. My intention was to offer a resource that could, potentially, help > ensure that 32-bit systems continue to be supported. In this way, I am > offering to contribute something back to the project that has served me well > for years. > > If that is not useful, that's fine. It's certainly less work for me. It was > just an offer. > Trixie will still provide some 32 bit programs but not an installer. At this point, it might be that 32 bit hardware can be replaced at minimal cost by a rescued 64 bit laptop or desktop and be both more efficient in terms of power used and usefulness. The EOL clock has been ticking on these sysems for a long time and I think i386 is now really EOL. > That is all. > > --J With every good wish, as ever, Andy (amaca...@debian.org)