> > My concern about Gitlab is not its *additions* to existing services, but > > its *duplications* of core services already in Debian. > > I agree, that's the key problem.
I agree that duplication is bad - but I disagree that use of version control duplicates the use of the Debian archive for source code storage, or that use of GitLab for code reviews would duplicate Debbugs. > > ...instead of lumping all those discussions into a discussion of ease of > > user interface for a single catch-all code forge that maybe make all those > > other complications go away by affecting all those questions and that way > > implicitly provides *some* answer to them all. > > Also, there is a difference between ease of use and intuitivity. GitLab > does not provide any tools that really make packaging easier. It is > initially more accessible to non-maintainers, because of familiarity, > but actual work happens outside of it. Would you be kind and try to understand the opposing viewpoint by trying it for one day? You could go to https://salsa.debian.org/debbugs-team/debbugs/-/merge_requests/19 and conduct a code review? You might discover that GitLab is useful and is not duplicating Debbugs or anything else in Debian - it is currently the only platform to conduct code reviews on in a way that has automatic testing and comment-response-resolved -tracking. Doing code reviews patches attached in email does not have that. If you try it out, and still think Salsa is bad for Debian, then I am more willing to accept your stanze. - Otto