On Fri, 09 Jan 2026 14:34, Lucas Nussbaum <[email protected]> wrote:
On 09/01/26 at 12:22 +0000, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Fri Jan 9, 2026 at 10:14 AM GMT, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> (with my Release Team hat on)

I welcome the release team's perspective on the issue!

> If GTK+2 is dead upstream for so long, then it'd be a disservice to our
> users to keep shipping it in new releases.

Can you expand on why? (If it ins't covered by your existing points below)

> If you find any of the remaining rdeps useful, there's time to port
> those over to GTK+3 or GTK+4.

The list of affected packages that Matthias has provided is enormous:
149 programs. Just glancing at it I see several that I use (openjdk-8,
hexchat, amsynth, pidgin), but I'm just one weirdo: to truly assess the
impact I think we need to x-ref the list against popcon and similar such
exercises.

hexchat is recommended by cinnamon-desktop-environment and
education-desktop-lxde, which might inflate its popcon score.

As sney pointed out on -til there is an active hexchat fork:
https://github.com/ZoiteChat/zoitechat/

According to the changelog, they already removed all deprecated GTK2 functions, which is a prerequisite for porting it to GTK3. While it is still early in development I assume it will be eventually be ported to GTK3.
Fwiw, the gtk2 applications I have installed and rely on:
- xournal (a PDF annotator). There's xournalpp (xournal++) that uses
 GTK3.
I can highly recommend xournalpp; it has more features and is actively maintained; recently it even gained a highlighter pen function.

best,

werdahias

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