On 3 Jun 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Dale> We must recognise two things: > > Dale> 1. Debian functions as a "Goal Oriented Anarchy". > Dale> (Bruce called it "Herding Cats") > > Dale> 2. The only reason it is functional is that all the cats have > the > Dale> same goals (for the most part). > > It has gotten to the point that the cats have to have a > process to recognize the goals. The constitution provides the > process.
The constitution does not "provide" a process, it defines one. It is the developers in this group, working together, who create "process". It is primarily this mailing list that "provides" access to that process. > > Also, it is easy to define fuzzy goals: Defining fuzzy goals is not the best way to approach this problem, so why do you wish to waste time in this fashion? > a) we need hamm out the door now > b) we neeed to release more often, and on schedule > (I like guys proposal of an updated stable pool that can be > tested continuuls, frozen, and released fast -- since there are > never any release critical bugs in the stable pool, the current > delay does not occur) > c) we need to cater to unattended installs/ replication in compute > farms > (Ians proposal of a question asking spec was a good > start. Linuxconfig and COAS are also promising) > d) We eed to get a better front end than dselect > APT is coming along > e) We need to do a size-required-for-installation thing > > ..... > > n) make debian the best free distribution in the whole darned world > I always thought this was #1 (or 'a)' if you insist) > There. Goals galore. If you want more goals, just ask. I can > create goals by the minute, no problems. Are we satisfied now? > Hardly. For goals are nothing unless they can be fleshed out. Goals > by themselves are vapourware. Hense the need for "discussion", a key word you seem to have forgotten. > > Since people want to discuss goals, let us get this over and > done with. Email me goals, and I promise to have a 100 by the Such discussions are never over ;-) > weekend. Then maybe we can get off and try and actually *DO* > something, like design and implementation, rather than sit around > talking goals. > Design and implimentation follow goals, not the other way around. A discussion requires setting goals and determining just what is necessary from each of us to make these goals attainable. Waiting is, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (850) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]