On Sat, Oct 10, 1998 at 12:25:07PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sat, 10 Oct 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > > I would prefer a new logo, too. We shouldn't draw it. > > We should run a gimp contest. They produced the Gnome logo, and there are > > artists as well as designer. They'll come up with a good, inspiring logo, > > I'm sure. We should vote the winner. > > good idea. > > i *really* like the GNU & Penguin one. (see the default index.html on a > new apache install if you don't know what i mean.) something based on > that would be great.
Well, I do not like it, and because I think this is important, I want to give the most importnat reasons for me to dislike any GNU or penguin motive: * Debian should develop it's own identity. We are a strong enough entity to be considered a parallel, but seperate movement from GNU and Linux. We owe much to both, but still, we are not simply derivates, we are more, and we should reflect that in our logo. It is "Debian GNU/Linux", not only "GNU/Linux". The next point elaborates: * Debian does combine GNU and Linux sources, and embraces both. But this is not what defines us. The logo should reflect Debian, not two core software components we use for our purpose (to turn it into a joke, I want to make the GNU carry the X logo, and the penguin to carry the apache logo, and behind them Larry should raise his hands and praise them both ;) * Although the Hurd and Linux share some code, they are differently. As I'm working on the Debian GNU/Hurd port, I find the analogy of the picture you have in mind and "Debian GNU/Linux" at least a bit weak. Note: The picture was drawn before we started with Debian GNU/Hurd. * Furthermore, we must be able to trademark the logo. A reference to an existing logo would be more difficult to trademark. I consider the first point the most important one. If I would propose any theme for the gimp contest, I would make it a condition that no reference to the GNU logo or Linux logo must be made. This also increases creativity and inspiration, in my honest opinion. Thank you, Marcus -- "Rhubarb is no Egyptian god." Debian GNU/Linux finger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.org master.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09