Taketoshi Sano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have heard that some self-candidates from Debian JP felt > that the Debian Project rejects them as a maintainer, > because: > > one of them had not receive no answers for long time, > > more than a month is too long enough for ordinary people.
Yes, well, it takes from 4 weeks to 6 months or longer for *all* people. I agree this should be shorter... Anyhow Debian-JP is *not* getting singled out. Everyone has this issue. > one of them did not have no English-written certificate, There is no requirement that I know of that any identification must be written in English. > and one of them had not enough time to wait the oversea call at home. > > He worked at laboratory, and during the experimentation, > he can't respond any call. IF there's not way the guy can get a phone call, I'm afraid there's no way they can be confirmed and become a developer. > "developers-reference" told us > > A phone number where we can call you. Remember that > the new maintainer team usually calls during > evening hours to save on long distance tolls. > Please do not give a work number, unless you are generally > there in the evening. > > but When is the "evening hours" ? or Where this "the evening hours" > have meaning at ? We don't know where the person at new-maintainer > lives in. If he lives in, say, NewYork city, "the evening hours" > may be 17:00-21:00 there, and 07:00-11:00 morning here. > Without the announce in advance, those who lives in Japan have > some difficulty to continue to wait a telephone call hopelessly > for a few months at such working time. According to James, all he says is "it's unlikely to be between 8AM and 4PM British time on Monday-Friday". No one is asking you to sit by the phone for 3 months. But if you can only be reached at number XX-YYY at the hours of 3-7 GMT on Saturday, then tell the new maintainers that. Give them time windows that work for you. Give them a few different numbers and suggested times. I mean, common sense, people. > Some members including current Debian maintainers (whom we call > as "official maintainers") insist that the action should have > taken now to speed up the contribution of JP packages into Debian. > The proposed action is to make an explicitly declaration that > "official" maintainers can freely take and move the JP packages > debianized by non "official" maintainers. > > Why is this needed ? There is a barrier or filter to be a maintainer > on Debian currently, and it is easy to take and move than to wait > patiently the willing JP member to be registered as a maintainer. Sure, but put people in the queue. It may take up to 3 months or longer if you're hard to reach on the phone -- so just plan on that. > BTW, related to that dispute, an "official" maitainer said > the "filter" works effectively. Is this the common idea to > Debian people ? Does Debian needs the filter to trap and drop > the willing self-candidate who have made and maitained > a qualified package already ? Well, sure, this is a decent stop-gap measure, so long as the "filter" person is able to do their job and keep up, and forward bugs on to the actual person who knows the code. > I understand (or at least hope to understand) this and I think also > some verification mechanism is required. But I doubt the enoughness > and effectiveness of the current processing mechanism. Well, I think it's pretty clear that we need more active people in the New Maintainer Group. I hereby volunteer (I'm in the US, NYC area, and only speak English and smidgeons of Spanish, German, and French). > P.S. > I think, and hope that the Debian is "open" project. It is -- don't get paranoid. The New Maintainer Group is just swamped a bit. I think it needs more people -- highly trustable people, of course. -- .....Adam Di [EMAIL PROTECTED]<URL:http://www.onShore.com/>