> the "we-know-better-than-you" attitude is what redhat and caldera (and
> microsoft, for that matter) does. it sucks. debian has always done
> better than that - our way is to encourage people to learn to do it for
> themself by not trying to hide the fact that knowledge and experience is
> required (not just optional or "would be nice" but absolutly required)

You don't think that "you only can have one daemon for a particular
service and it's going to be turned on by default" is representative
of the "we-know-better-than-you" attitude?

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