On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 08:24:42PM +0100, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > Dylan Paul Thurston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 11:52:37AM -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote: > > > at the risk of reigniting a flame war, how is traceroute in a different > > > catagory that ping? > > traceroute is "deeper" than ping. It exposes things that the casual > user neither sees nor cares about. Ping only measures what everybody > experiences anyway: how responsive is a particular host?
Without going in depth as to what traceroute and ping are (a fruitless flame war) suffice it to say that I disagree with your "deeper" comment. > One has to draw a boundary, and on GNU systems it runs between ping > and traceroute. Others do it differnently, AFAIR AIX has both in > sbin. These 'boundaries' are completely arbitrary, since as pointed out earlier, Herbert Xu isn't willing to change traceroute. Perhaps we should ask Dan Quinlan? > > Or mtr, for that matter? > > That should go into sbin. I filed a wishlist item. If it is really to go in sbin, then I shall also take the suid-bit off of it, since obviously only root will be using it anyway. mtr users, relax: none of this will happen, because, first and foremost, *I* use mtr as a user. :) -- Robert Woodcock - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "To the other one percent -- thanks for the passion and color!" -- Jeff Bezos