Aleksey Midenkov <a...@uezku.kemsu.ru> writes: > On Tuesday 15 September 2009 17:34:18 Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Aleksey Midenkov wrote: >> > Guys! Placing some hints on dpkg about packages that may be >> > broken is wrong. Imagine that count of such packages is infinity, >> > so you will be keep putting all them inside dpkg control info? >> > This is an abstraction and the next is reality. You fixed a lot >> > of good bugs but made an requirement of switching from KDE 3 to >> > KDE 4. Not everyone believe that KDE 4 is better and such >> > requirement is somehow clumsy because the reason of it lies in >> > some insignificant (by the comparison with the topic of KDE >> > version switching) busyness with install-info. Please, be fair! >> >> If you managed to put konqueror on hold, you can surely do the same >> for dpkg. Sid evolves, if you don't want use newer software, then >> don't use sid (hint: KDE4 replaces KDE3 in sid). >> >> > > It doesn't pull anything new, it just forces the upgrade of >> > > what's already installed if you have packages that have not >> > > been transitionned to the separate install-info package. >> > >> > So, I required to go to KDE 4 from KDE 3 just because of some >> > obscure install-info that dpkg needs? >> >> If you use sid yes, you can also decide to not upgrade dpkg or to >> rebuild a patched dpkg that doesn't have the breaks relationship. >> >> > Maybe it will be better to make it to live peacefully with old >> > packages? >> >> It does live peacefully with old packages, it tells them when a >> change breaks them so that the user doesn't experience the >> breakage.
Given that Breaks causes apt/aptitude to fail with a Pre-Depends loop error (that is not there) if there is any hint of a loop do you think this is a good idea? Have you tested the various upgrade scenarios and partial upgrades to see if apt/aptitude grogs them? >> That said, the kind of breakage related to install-info is only of >> the sort "my info page is not listed in the index". I agree it's >> not an important breakage but I don't see a good reason to revert >> the change. > > Wow! The good reason is: you make me and other people set dpkg on hold > and be deprived from the features and bugfixes in 1.15.4. For who you > made efforts then? For yourself? For who you serve? For people like > me or for yourself? You suggest me to make work by fiddling with your > dpkg, dragging custom version? For who then you make your job in > Debian man? > >> >> If KDE 4 doesn't suit you, you'd better file bugs on it so that it >> can be usable for you when squeeze gets out. > > Do you realize that KDE 3 and 4 are whole different products? Did you > used them per chance to suggest me to switch to KDE4 or not use sid? > By putting metainfo about KDE in dpkg you proven your sillyness. How is KDE3 konquerer a different product that KDE4 konquerer? Is one a web browser and the other a window manager? >> >> Cheers, MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-dpkg-bugs-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org