Hi,

Back when I started using Debian "testing" was a transitory archive 
which only existed during the freeze before a release, and DD's 
complained about having to stop development until the release was made.

Creating the permanent Testing archive was intended to fix that problem, 
but failed because Unstable was effectively the only way to get stuff 
into Testing and continual development resulted in an untested Testing 
and too long a release cycle.

Now Testing appears to have everything it needs to allow for a freeze on 
Unstable->Testing migrations and independent updates to Testing... 
which should allow development to continue in Unstable without 
affecting the version in Testing or the release cycle.

Aside from holidays, non-frozen packages needing attention, and sneaking 
in a new feature after the freeze... is there any reason why 
development on dpkg should stop until after the next release?


- Bruce


On Wed September 27 2006 03:18, Guillem Jover wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 23:33:48 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > How is dpkg development going atm? I know it's not necessarily a
> > good indicator of activity, but I've not seen much happening on
> > this list.
>
> Kind of frozen right now, I had a list of stuff I wanted to get done
> for etch, but due to holidays and then the freeze I've not done, they
> are not critical though, and I've let that aside to deal with other
> non-frozen packages to prepare them for the release.
>
> > While I was in Tenerife last week, I met up with Esteban
> > Manchado Velazquez and he told me about his ideas for a testing
> > framework for dpkg. To me as a rank outsider, this sounds like a
> > cool idea, but he was concerned that he hadn't had any responses to
> > his mails.
>
> Yes it is, but right now it's a bit painful to do development on
> dpkg. I don't really like to use experimental for something like it,
> even if I've state in -devel that I've been thinking on branching it.
> I prefer to do incremental changes, deploy them, get testing for few
> weeks, see if something breaks, and upload again. Creating a big
> delta in experimental make me feel unconfortable with something like
> dpkg.
>
> Also l10n, documentation and similar are cheap to get in, that's why
> I've not worried much about pushing that into sid. But any other kind
> of changes needs RMs approval and thus takes their time by reviewing
> the patches and the justifications, which I prefer to minimize if
> possible.
>
> > So, I have a couple of questions: Who (if anybody) is working on
> > dpkg at the moment? Is more help needed at the moment?
>
> Christian explained already what's the status right now, who is who
> etc. About needed help, I suppose more help would not harm, but I
> don't think right now is a good moment to evaluate this, I'd say
> after the release we can check what the status is.
>
> thanks for the interest,
> guillem


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