Dear Chris, On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 12:02:03PM -0000, Chris Lamb wrote: > (As an obiter dictum, are we sure it was Holger who was proposing this > idea in the talk, rather than mentioning it? I think he has previously > echoed my view on the "no special tools" principle, hence this minor > remark. Am willing to be corrected either way.)
yes, it was me who proposed it (watch my dc20 talk! :) and who still thinks it's a good idea. sadly I didn't have the time to start the discussion in a bug (I only came to this conclusion the day before the talk, though I have thought about this for the last 5 years) and I probably still won't have the time until next week. (*) I'd appreciate we'd use a bug for discussing this, so whatever the outcome will be, we'll have a canonical and truely long living url to reference the discussion. thanks. (*) so the blame for not discussing this in a bug right now in the first place, goes to me. hooray. similarily, I don't think an internal Debian discussion immediatly belongs on the rb-general list... I do believe we have these two distict lists for a reason :) also, I will not share my thoughts about Guillem's and Chris' reply here (and *now*), before I had the opportunity to put the reasoning behind my thoughts in a bug report. And I'd hope my thoughts why are laid out clearly in my talk available at https://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2020/DebConf20/49-reproducing-bullseye-in-practice.webm finally, I'm sorry if I come accross harsh. I feel pressured and misunder- stood and that I need to react now. I wish I felt different. -- cheers, Holger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org PGP fingerprint: B8BF 5413 7B09 D35C F026 FE9D 091A B856 069A AA1C That morning, the young barista woman told me that a customer came in with a mask, but not wearing it. When she asked the customer to put on her mask please, the woman said: "Why? There's no-one in here."
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