Hi Holger,

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:28:38AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> and thus distracts / blurries the view. For example:
> 
> 2014-10-22 07:09:21,766 - INFO - (190): Blend debian-edu task common: Package 
> ion2 is provided in Ubuntu
> 
> ion2 is dead since years (6 or 7 or so... years!), so I have no clue why UDD 
> says its still in Ubuntu (it's also still in Debian etch or lenny), but if I 
> see this, I will not track those 200 other entries telling me it's in Ubuntu. 
> 
> Instead it should plainly say: "no information about ion2 available in the 
> archive". - or whatever. Your first link is *much* better in this regard.

Please forgive me that I was bothering you with some debug info of the
Blends importer which is not intended to be inspected by users (and thus
not online).  I was considering to do you a favour to provide additional
information which is IMHO helpful to spot things like this:

debian-edu(master) $ gbp-pull
debian-edu(master) $ head -n1 debian/changelog
debian-edu (1.809) UNRELEASED; urgency=high
debian-edu(master) $ grep ion2 tasks/*
tasks/common:             fvwm1, fvwm95, habak, hanterm-xf, icewm, ion2, ion3, 
jwm, \

> So while this import list is indeed noisy and this is partly Debian Edus 
> "fault" -  because as I said, by design we include packages not (yet) 
> available anymore in our tasks. and then by design we also forget to clean 
> those lists... - but it's also noisy because it adds information from an 
> unrelated source (ubuntu)

Yes, Ubuntu is in fact unrelated.  I was expecting you to do some
   `grep -v <irrelevant stuff>`

I personally like to browse the whole list since it might give you some
clue about renamed packages which are featuring the old name at these
other sources and you are able to remember - hey, this package is
renamed now in our relevant source

> and then overlays this information over other 
> information it has about Debian, so that this other info gets hidden. And 
> *this* needs to be fixed in the UDD importer, and not in the Edu tasks.

Holger, it would be really great if you would dig into the tasks files
before you claim that they are OK.  You just told me how outdated ion2
is and you keep on claiming that the tasks are fine?  Again:  The UDD
importer is not primarily intended for Blends developers but it really
helps to detect problems.  I'd rather say that the tasks job logfile is
broken since it is missing ion2 (and fvwm1, fvwm95, etc.).  As always
patches are welcome.

Hope this helps

       Andreas.

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