On 22/04/2009, Alan Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > On 4/21/09, Ben Armstrong <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:28:55 +0200 >> Santi Béjar <[email protected]> wrote: >>> It has been discussed in the past. The main issue is that the Eee uses >>> the keyboard to cool the machine, so the only sane/safe thing to do is >>> to suspend. >>> >>> You can always, at your own risk, modify the action in >>> /etc/acpi/actions/lid.sh. >> >> I think the risks may be somewhat overstated, so we need to be clearer >> on this point. Please supply evidence that this is harmful. My >> experience with the model 4G is that it is safe to leave the lid closed >> along as you apply some common sense. >> >> My Eee is now nearly a year and a half old. In that time, I have more >> than once accidentally left the lid closed with the system running >> *and* left it in that state in my not-well-ventilated bag. Upon >> discovering this hours later, the temperature was reported to be around >> 68C. There is no evidence that the system sustained any damage from >> these events. Granted, this is only one data point, so you can't draw >> any general conclusions from it. However, it suggests that if you >> exercise some prudence (i.e. don't leave it running with the lid >> closed and run something CPU-intensive and/or block the vent) there >> should be no problem running it with the lid closed, even for extended >> periods of time. >> > > +1. I've done the same thing, and the machine was uncomfortably hot > to the touch, but undamaged. I agree that it gets hot if you just > close it and walk away, but that's something you have to learn. I > learnt this quickly because it's _uncomfortable_ when it gets hot, > even just typing on a desk. If you have to deliberately choose to > disable "suspend on lid close", I don't see the problem. It's really > not a "let me kill my hardware" setting. It's "don't kill my user > experience because I might sometimes forget and slightly reduce the > lifetime of my hardware". > > I can see arguments for preserving the default. If someone installs > debian to replace Xandros, it's nice to have the same default > behaviour, especially when there are trade-offs like this. > > But I'm unhappy with suspending it automatically because of the way I > use it. I drag it around with me at home, and I obviously close the > lid while carrying it. Having to press the power button, wait a few > seconds for resume, and possibly recover broken network connections > detracts significantly from the experience. Am I that unusual? > > > At least for the original EEE, the power consumption in suspend is > unfortunately high. My solution is to hibernate if I'm going to throw > it in a bag, so I'm free to forget about it for the day. > > _______________________________________________
In my environment I can close my running 701 and prop it up like a book. The air circulates between the screen and keyboard so well that it never gets really hot even when working quite hard as a server and running several applications over ssh-x. Ambient here is about 25C. Another odd effect is that the signal for the wifi is better with it stood up like that, but that is incidental. John -- My house for sale in Peru. http://www.580elbosque.idimo.net --------------------------------- Become a serious teacher by clicking this link and registering here - I did and now I am earning - http://www.seriousteachers.com/teachers.asp?IdTeacherPartner=1085695 ################################# Ayer es historia. Mañana un misterio. Hoy es un regalo. Es por ello que es llamado el presente!! Creo que esta vida es especial Vivela..........!!!!!!!! _______________________________________________ Debian-eeepc-devel mailing list [email protected] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-eeepc-devel
