Thiemo Nagel wrote:
Dear Alan,

I'd like to request removal of the special treatment for Atheros (v.s. Ralink) wireless. I don't believe it is necessary, and it confused me while trying to debug the wireless toggle.

"ifconfig up" should not be necessary either. network-manager works fine without it on my system. ifupdown must be able to work without it, because the interface starts off as "down" when ath5k is loaded at boot time. If "ifconfig up" is necessary in some setups, I can only think that they are broken.

If we remove this, we'll probably break things for some etch users who run eeepc-acpi-scripts from unstable. Therefore I'd suggest to add logic to detect the kernel version and only remove the special treatment for kernels >= 2.6.30. Yes, that'll add more cruft, but otherwise we might ruin the experience for people running mixed systems.
Hi, thanks for your reply. I certainly don't want to cause regressions. Can you elaborate please?

Are you concerned about the module loading as well, or only "ifconfig up" as quoted above?

I would have thought the module loading was more significant. If "ifconfig up" is the only problem, I can't see how hotplug is different from boot. I assume boot always works, without having to toggle the wireless.

Why do we assume 2.6.30 is ok? Is there an important feature/bugfix in it? Or is this more of a heuristic, in that no-one is able (or willing?) to run etch userspace on such a new kernel?

Thanks
Alan

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