On Sat, Jan 29, 2005 at 07:21:02PM -0600, Quantum Scientific wrote: >On Sat, 2005-01-29 at 17:59 -0600, Quantum Scientific wrote: >> > I don't even know whether this would get me to an EmDebian filesystem. >> >> Well not really, scratchbox =3D/=3D EmDebian... Personally I have no >> experience with scratchbox, but if I remember correctly ARM works best >> because they use Qemu to replace hardware, and the ARM support is at is >> best in that part of it. I also don't think it was designed to do >> "native" compiling. > >No. > >I am not saying *Scratchbox* is failing to install. That went in perfectly, >and with several toolchains. I had a blank filesystem ready-to-go with i386 >compile tools, however I do not know how to proceed installing EmDebian, and >no one here was able to advise. I know several others here are in the same >boat, and are hoping that I get an answer so they can use EmDebian too. > >I am saying that I then resorted to installing your preferred Cross-Compile >Environment, in hopes of ascertaining how to install EmDebian, except it >fails installing every toolchain except ARM, with the error I posted. At the >moment I must have the i486 toolchain. It is busted. And I do not even know >whether installing your preferred cross-compile environment will lead me to >the way to set up EmDebian. But this is the method I chose to try and figure >out how to install EmDebian, since no one here has been able or willing to >advise. > > >> > I guess this project is just not ready. >> >> There are no ready made easy to use projects yet. It is starting out to >> become better... EmDebian is another idea... Still in development, we >> already have good toolchains, and a collection of knowledge, the main >> developers are working on it but because we are slightly overloaded with >> work it does not go as fast as we would like. > >I am not hoping for a ready-made project! But I need some means to divine how >to install the distro. I can't read minds. The Wiki, assuming it has this >setup info, is a confused jumble and makes little sense to an educated >newcomer. And almost none of my questions have been answered here. > >To quote another poster here today, "Please feel free to add this to the wiki >(i won't do it)." WTF is that?
That means that i won't create me an account to fill in text into the wiki. For me it's weekend and i prefer to do other things. > >EmDebian is inaccessible, since your "collection of knowledge" is being kept a >secret for some reason. If it's a club, or a priesthood, fsck that, I >understand and will get lost. I hate that attitude; people like that are >assholes and do nothing but harm the open-source movement. But if someone Well, it's my weekend :) Please calm down. I wrote a usingSNP page in the wiki (linked from the page i cited yesterday -- http://www.emdebian.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RootFileSystem?#How_large_can_I_let_my_system_be ) so in case you want to use SNP, you could have seen the pointer to a simple example. For me (i586-mmx target) SNP provided all i needed. From what i saw, it should be no problem to create a filesystem with snp when the target is a different arch than the build-host. Of course SNP does use the precompiled binaries, so in case you need additional software on your target, you need to (cross-)compile it for the target. Somebody (Nikita, iirc) looks into dpkg-cross, but i'm not familiar with it. >can understand what I am talking about and is willing to help, I'm willing to >try. Why do you need a cross-compiler for i486 in the first place? What's wrong with something like gcc -mcpu=i486 -m486 ? Just curious. > >Carl Cook friendly, Bernhard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

