Herbert Valerio Riedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ...so... is _still_ not a buggy behaviour??
No. Look at 8.5/9: # If no initializer is specified for an object, and the object is of # (possibly cv-qualified) non-POD class type (or array thereof), the # object shall be default-initialized; if the object is of # const-qualified type, the underlying class type shall have a # user-declared default constructor. Your objects have const-qualified type, and the underlying class has no user-declared default constructor, hence your program is ill-formed. Whether there would be any members with indeterminate state is irrelevant, as is the fact that three other compilers fail to find that ill-formedness. Regards, Martin