On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 02:31:36AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > <quote who="Steve M. Robbins"> > > > Personally, I'm not convinced that Gnome2 should ever supplant Gnome1. > > ?!
Let me moderate my statement. I'm not convinced that Debian should ever force the users to switch from Gnome1 to Gnome2. > > Switching from G1 to G2 is, by all accounts, a disruptive one. > > Right now, yes. > > > Moreover, it may require more hardware. > > Have you read the release notes, or otherwise researched this? GNOME 2, by > and large requires LESS powerful hardware. OK. I more or less based that remark on skimming a different thread about window moving and resizing being opaque rather than rubber-banding. I may well have misinterpreted the discussion, so I withdraw this comment. > > Thus, I can imagine that some administrators would prefer that their Gnome > > systems NOT get automatically upgraded. > > Right now, yes. But for woody+1? Almost certainly not. They'd prefer the > system to suck up the new stuff that everyone else is using. I don't know that that is true. First of all, I don't know that the transition will *ever* be smooth from G1->G2. I appreciate that folks are hard at work on this. For the moment however, the promise of a smooth transition is vapourous. It seems foolhardy to base a strategy on the premise that "things will just work out". Second, I'm thinking less of "woody+1" than of "woody+0.1". I suspect that if woody were ever to get released, a "point release" would follow fairly quickly to catch up on new versions of things. It may happen that this point release comes before the G1->G2 transition is smoothed out, so it would be nice to have the same G1 packages available. Right now, gnome-terminal 1.4 has vanished from SID. It needs to be restored if a new debian revision should be required for whatever reason. Finally, if the transition does become truly smooth, then Debian can provide a "gnome2 task" (or dummy package, or similar mechanism) to do the upgrade. > > In short, I am arguing that Gnome 1 and Gnome 2 should both remain in > > Debian indefinitely. > > That'd be really useful if G1 was going to be maintained and supported > indefinitely, but because no one wants to do-- oh wait, do you want to do > it? :-) I'm not going to do any development, no. However, I *am* willing to take over debian G1 packages if maintainers have moved on to the G2 version. I would like, for example, put back the G1 versions of "gnome-terminal" and "sawfish-gnome". On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 10:30:30AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 12:06:17PM -0400, Steve M. Robbins wrote: > > In short, I am arguing that Gnome 1 and Gnome 2 should both remain in > > Debian indefinitely. > > Yes, Debian definitely needs to indefinitely support obsolete bloated crap > which everyone else would be rid of as soon as possible. I'm not moved by bloat arguments. One person's "bloat" is another person's "choice". Cheers, -Steve -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
