On Sun, 2002-08-04 at 21:17, Joseph Carter wrote: > On Sun, Aug 04, 2002 at 02:47:53PM -0400, Sean Middleditch wrote: > > > In fact, it's true that with the G1.4 control center the user could > > > easily choose the WM he wanted to be launched, that (good) feature has > > > been removed, don't know why... > > > > Becuase most users shouldn't even know what a WM is. Most *don't* know > > what a WM is (assuming you are not talking about a UNIX-savvy user). > > Just as w/ KDE, where alternate WM's can be used, there should be but > > one single WM for GNOME that just does what it should. Metacity isn't > > yet up to par, but I believe once it is, Sawfish will be phased out, and > > Metacity will remain as the only good GNOME WM. > > Man that will suck, given the small but important list of features Havoc > _refuses_ to implement. > > Havoc is not writing a practical window manager, he's writing an > ideologically pure one. If I have to choose between Gnome and the ability > to use my desktop, I will choose a usable desktop. Given all of the hype > about how accessable Gnome2 supposedly is, it's amazing how many features > I _train other low vision users to use_ he simply doesn't like for some > reason or another and therefore will not have in Metacity.
Ah, these I am unaware of... the only things I've heard him refuse to implement are the "weird" features like separate viewports/workspaces... > > It's quite clear that my needs don't matter to him, and based on the > reaction I get to requests for these features (many of which used to be in > G1D), I would gather not many other people outside of Sun do either. > Sorry, outside of Sun? > > Just last night, when I commented about a problem with gnome-terminal and > epic, I was told that I should be using xchat rather than some terminal > based irc client. Maybe it's just me, but I don't see much real interest > in whether or not Gnome works with anything but Gnome, including former > Gnome1.4 users. Depends on who you talk to. One or two people can be asses, doesn't mean the whole project is against you. So far as using x-chat goes.. that's one nasty, and not at all GNOME-based, IRC client. ~,^ Gnome-terminal does indeed suck very badly, but there appears to be a new terminal widget in the works, which may fix your problems, once it's released. I know the current widget (zvt or whatever its called) gives me no end of head-aches... > > -- > Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You want fries with that? > > <Overfiend> partycle: I seriously do need a vacation from this package. > I actually had a DREAM about introducing a stupid new bug > into xbase-preinst last night. That's a Bad Sign. >
