On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 11:02:05AM +0200, Frederic Peters wrote: > Martin-�ric Racine wrote : > > > 2) The fact that it was hidden in GTK2.4+ is a _BUG_ not a feature. > > Sure, some of us Debian maintainer (or not) thinks so and we can > continue whining on this list.
Well, i am not sure if i am wrong, but for the package i maintain, i provide an interface between the users and upstream. And i think this is a reasonable way to handle packages, and somehow believe that that is what is expected of debian maintainers. And here is the right place to speak to the debian-gnome maintainers. But then, i don't know, maybe i am wrong about this. Now, if the debian/gnome maintainers tell us, we agree with this, but upstream doesn't want to hear a thing about it, either provide a patch, or help us getting the right idea upstream by writing it to that list, then ok. But still, i believe that the debian/gnome maintainers, if they agree with this "whinning", would be fortified by knowing that many of their users and co-developer feel the same way, and can then go to upstream with the legitimity of speaking about the debian user base. So, either i am totally off, or this discussion has some usefullness. And no, i don't want to be transformed into a Ctr+ addict, or a stupid windows user if i want to continue to use gnome. And remember the HIG, there should be not a lot of options, but the right default, and Ctr+ stuff to make the Gnome desktop usable is akin of lot of options in some way. Friendly, Sven Luther

