On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 10:52, Simon McVittie <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 at 20:18:32 -0400, Jeremy Bícha wrote:
I believe the only key package is the debian-installer which I think
we can figure out this development cycle.

Converting d-i to (a sensible threading model, and then) GTK 3 continues to be something I'm sporadically working on. Until that is something that the d-i team could realistically review and merge, I don't think removing GTK 2 is feasible, because the graphical installer is a requirement for Debian's support for languages that aren't feasible to implement on the Linux console (for example Arabic).

(And as long as we need GTK 2's udebs, I would strongly prefer to continue to have its .deb as well, so that it's possible to test it without resorting to doing a whole d-i build.)

Do you have a working tree for d-i somewhere? Maybe I can spend some time during the holidays on this. I concur the we should not remove gtk2 unless d-i is fully ported.
Starting to raise more of the "relies on GTK 2" bugs to serious could make sense, particularly if you can point to specific functionality that is expected in 2025 applications but cannot be provided by GTK 2. But I predict that some Debian contributors will be vociferously opposed to its removal and I don't have the spoons to fight them over this.
Most applications that are not ported yet are kinda on lifesupport anyway IMO. Of course we should not strive to break packages *right now*, but GTK2 is EOL since 2020 and I doubt anything critical (save d-i) relies on it.

best,

werdahias

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