On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 10:26:06PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > Firstly, thanks for your mail, apologies that I haven't replied sooner, > we've had EU and local elections, so I've been busy runnign around with > leaflets, knocking on doors, kissing babies etc. like any politician. No > expenses though...
No problem. > > On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 12:36:01PM -0600, Grant Grundler wrote: > > Carlos O'Donnell asked some questions in response to [0] and I never > > saw any response. Can an attendee of the above meeting please reply > > this email from Carlos? > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2009/04/msg00303.html > > > > I'm not sure what replies you'd like... there's certainly been some > follow ups to that mail. The following questions haven't been answered in that thread: 1) Is there a list of different porting efforts? 2) What is considered proper java support? GCJ? I've commented on the kernel side and it's looking better. I don't know the status of the HPPA installer. > > I also never got a response to my offer here: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2009/04/msg00339.html > > > > Indeed, and that's worrying. I would have expected a HPPA porter (if > indeed one still exists) to have replied to that. Or they already have machines. I'm not a DD and don't aspire to be one. So these are "in the wild" from a Debian point of view. > > Quite a few serious hppa specific bugs have been fixed upstream over > > the past 6 months. This is worth revisiting. > > > > Is upstream stable enough for a buildd? I don't know since I'm not aware > > of any attempts to run a buildd with those kernels. > > Neither do we, we're not HPPA porters :) > We did go through this before with newer kernels, and it didn't help > FWIW. > > > Is the answer to that question still germane? > > Ish. We still have the issue that you can't actually buy HPPAs any more, > and various bits and pieces from the Arch Requalification list. We can buy HPPA. Just not new ones. There are several resellers of used HPPA gear if someone wants/needs to spend money on it. Can you list the "various bits and pieces" specifically? I can then prod the folks I know who might be able to do something about if they still feel like it. > [change of order by me below] > > Also, I'd like to ask HPPA debs be kept in "testing" staging area, > > just never promoted when the release is cut. This will let people > > continue using HPPA without having to suffer with the !hppa breakage > > that lives in unstable. > > > (that's all I personally care about - I don't care about "stable" > > releases.) > > This is one of the major problems for the port. Testing exists to create > the next stable release. Essentially, testing *is* the next stable, > except that it's a little volatile for a number of months... :) Ok. > > Can we have the minutes for this meeting? > > I'm afraid they're not publicly available, but I will be posting a > mail to d-d-a real-soon-now(tm), apologies for the delays in this, it > was a rather full meeting. Given Debian is non-profit and strives to be transperent in it's operations, this sounds like a digression in that effort. I'm not on d-d-a. Can you please CC affected ports? (TIA) cheers, grant -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-hppa-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
