After seeing the responses, I feel it's appropriate that I apologize to the list. While I feel my post was justified in that I was answering a legitimate question, I probably should have been more sensitive to the fact that Jason brought up -- we are almost all affiliated with an ISP or hosting company or whatever on this list, and a certain amount of respect ought to go along with what we as members post.

My apologies to you all.

Thanks-
Eric



On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 06:34 PM, Tim Quinlan wrote:

Well, you have to commend Mark's honesty. He did say, "I really didn't
want to use this excellent mailing list as a sales platform."  And he
answered the question.

It's better than being subversive and saying something like, "I am a
_very_ _happy_ customer of company XYZ.  They rule!!!!"


On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 20:16, Jason Lim wrote:
Agree... let's try and keep this for a discussion about ISPs running
Debian... not Sales & Marketing.

We're pretty much all offering Debian here as part of our services,
otherwise we wouldn't BE here to start with ;-)

I don't think anyone minds a line or two mentioning your company, cool...
but the whole email with paragraphs worth of promotions?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Lijftogt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Loopshot Operator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, 18 February, 2003 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: debian friendly unmanaged hosting joints?


You forgot about how your company is growing, the amount of job
openings,
the nice and bright future and stuff..

naah.. nevermind..


On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 02:27:00PM -0800, Loopshot Operator wrote:
Old-Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: debian friendly unmanaged hosting joints?
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jamie Penner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: Loopshot Operator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I really didn't want to use this excellent mailing list as a sales
platform, but it seems like there are several interested parties
looking for Debian-specific dedicated/managed hosting stateside.

Our firm does just that.  We are Debian-specific, in that we really
don't promote other distros or OSes nearly as much (only if
requested).
 Pricing is $195/mo. for 30 GB of bandwidth.  Full data-center
amenities, such as 10 day battery backup, diesel generator backup,
dual
DS-3 capacity, environmental control, etc.

With our dedicated server packages, we also give you access to your
own
power control so you can power-cycle your server as you see fit.  We
will also do full monitoring of ports/services/intrusion and nightly
backup, if you so desire, (although most on this list seem like
they're
perfectly capable of doing that themselves.)

So that aside, feel free to contact me off-list if you'd like more
information. Our web site is currently being revamped, so some of the
info on there is out of date. Here's the contact info:

Eric Jennings
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Loopshot, Inc.
http://www.loopshot.com
+1 (775) 856-3455

Once again, my apologies for those who may not be interested, but I
thought I'd mention it since several have asked about firms offering
Debian servers in the U.S.

Thanks-
Eric


On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 01:56 PM, Jamie Penner wrote:

Wish they were in N. America!  (or someone like them!)

At 12:46 PM 2/17/2003, you wrote:

On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Brett Parker wrote:

     http://www.positiveinternet.co.uk/
isn't that www.positive-internet.co.uk?
The address works with or without the hyphen; with or without the
www.
(That's the sort of attention to little detail you get with them.)

 one of the maintainers of the debian packages for apache2 works
there, he has clue
Not only that, but when chatting on #debian-uk one night, I got
instant
service from one of their employees for a question about their
service I had,
that just cropped up in the course of conversation.

Very, very "Debian", all round.



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