On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 15:27:03 +1000, Russell wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 09:51, Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ..another idea; DDOS'ing spam hosts _off_ the net, say by using > > other spam hosts as DOS relays? Spam headers contain the > > originating ip, and 2 such _can_ be set up to DOS each other. > > _Etc_. > > The problem is that such attacks are a crime, and you are probably > easier for the authorities to catch then the spammer... ..most places, agreed. > > ..these spam hosts are commonly virus infected Wintendo's without > > the owner knowing, as such unsuspecting owners feel their box > > appears to work normally. > > > > ..these virus infected Wintendos should be taken off-line, anyway, > > and made secure. And isp's should have a policy on such abuse, > > and enforce it. > > http://www.netfilter.org/patch-o-matic/pom-base.html > > See the section on "osf" in the above URL for a better solution. > Simply block Windows machines from accessing your port 25. ..if only all isp's did it... > > ..outside Internet, similar action is warranted in many > > jurisdictions, by laws governing emergencies, for example, breaking > > into your neighbors house to take his computer is a criminal > > offence, but may be warranted if his house is ablaze and you know > > the loss of his data will destroy his business. > > I doubt that any court would rule that a DDOS attack is lawful, > particularly as the attack would mostly harm an innocent ISP that has > a Windows luser as a customer (all ISPs have lame customers). ..argueably, yes, however in the case of the lame isp's, there's possibly an opening for such court rulings. > > ..Bill Gates' proposal of email-for-a-fee-to-Microsoft to solve > > this, is IMHO pure racism, as is Nigeria's 419 legislation, as it > > effectively denies all other Africans and many Asians the access to > > the free email that you and I enjoy. > > I don't want to send email to Microsoft anyway... ;) .. ;-) The Microsoft scheme is a M$ scheme, their idea is collect the M$ thru their "passport" "service", AFAIUI. ..and, booo, you cc'ed me, spammer! ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]