I would happily try another ethernet card if that would solve the problem.
But somehow, since I've tried a few cards ( i admit they are the same
model, but one was a fresh new out-of-the-box card), I don't think another
ethernet card it the solution.

The strangest thing is that it auto falls back RIGHT when the networking
code in debian loads up, not when the box boots, not when the kernel loads
the realtek code, but exactly when debian loads up networking stuff. Now
why would that be? Could anything there cause this?

Sincerely,
Jason Lim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff S Wheeler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jason Lim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <debian-isp@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 5:09 AM
Subject: RE: Auto 10/100Mb card fallback from 100 to 10 on 100Mb network


> I suggest you spend 39$ on an Intel eepro100 (z-buy.com, think shipping
on
> those cards is free) and give it a try.  I'm betting it will also fail
to
> work in this machine, and you'll discover the problem is physical plant
> related, but perhaps not.  Either way you've tried most other things,
may as
> well shell out a few dollars.  After all, it sounds like you've put at
least
> 39$ worth of your time into this, and you haven't been able to eliminate
the
> problem yet.
>
> - jsw
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Lim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 4:25 PM
> To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Auto 10/100Mb card fallback from 100 to 10 on 100Mb network
>
>
> Well, here is the stupid and interesting thing.
>
> I've got more than 5 boxes here, all using the SAME realtek cards. Now
if
> it was some negotiation error between card and switch, then it, in
theory,
> should occur with all of them. Also, I mentioned that I had SWITCH cards
> around, so a functioning card from a "stable debian" box was put into
the
> "unstable debian" box, and the same fallback to 10Mb occurred.
>
> So I'm pretty sure that its a software issue. I was wondering if there
> could be anything... ANYTHING software related that could force the card
> into a fallback like that. Keep in mind that during bootup, and before
> Debian loads up the network code, it is still in 100Mb mode. It ISN'T a
> kernel problem either. The reason I say that is because if it was, then
> when kernel loads the RT8139 (yes, i finally checked ;-)   ) the
fallback
> should occur. However, it is STILL in 100Mb mode when it detects the
> Realtek cards (2 of them, and yes, i've tried booting with only 1, and
> switch those two around, put them in different PCI slots, etc.).
>
> Could it, but some chance, maybe be the cards going into promiscuous
mode
> causing the card to fall back to 100Mb? I've never seen it happen... but
> maybe?
>
> Heres an interesting thing I tried. The cards came with a software disk
> (needed msdos to boot) that allowed me to switch between 10Mb, 100Mb,
and
> Auto-neg. The cards are set by default to Auto-neg, as they should be. I
> FORCED it to 100Mb to see what would happen. Sure enough, I successfully
> got it to stay at 100Mb, but then the switch automatically disabled the
> port after around 5-10 minutes, and said it shut the port down due to
> "conflict". Thats it. Thats all it said (oh how helpful). This is a
Cisco
> switch btw.
>
> Please... ANY suggestions and help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Sincerely,
> Jason Lim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Waugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Jason Lim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Pierfrancesco Caci" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <debian-isp@lists.debian.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 2:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Auto 10/100Mb Negotiation falling back to 10 on 100 network
>
>
> > <quote who="Jason Lim">
> >
> > > These are cheap REALTEK 1039? 3039? Can't remember exactly. The
ending
> is
> > > 39... i know that for sure (because i also know they have 19, 29,
and
> 39
> > > afaik).
> > >
> > > I still haven't been able to solve. I've upgraded to the latest of
> every
> > > package related to networking, to no avail.
> >
> > Cheap and dirty cards... Not that I don't use them. :)
> >
> > Sounds like autoconfiguration issues between the cards and switch.
> >
> > - Jeff
> >
> > --
> >   You'll see what I mean.
> >
>
>
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