I've been running Progeny with Ivan's KDE2.1 packages for a while now. I've seen various posts about kaiman being obsoleted by noatun, but I've still got kaiman on my system. It seems to work well, but won't work with ALL my media files. I decided to see it noatun was available and an apt-get install noatun fetched and installed noatun, but didn't remove kaiman.
When I run noatun from a terminal, I get the following errors: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ noatun KCrash: crashing.... crashRecursionCounter = 2 KCrash: Application Name = noatun path = <unknown> The KDE Crash handler reports this: (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... [New Thread 1024 (LWP 1056)] (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... 0x2b960f89 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #0 0x2b960f89 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x2b9cab4c in __check_rhosts_file () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x2ace6183 in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #3 0x2b16f930 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3 #4 0x2ace3dd4 in pthread_sighandler () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #5 0x2b8eaa28 in sigaction () from /lib/libc.so.6 #6 0x2aaf5957 in Engine::Engine () from /usr/lib/libnoatun.so.0 #7 0x2aafe19b in Player::Player () from /usr/lib/libnoatun.so.0 #8 0x2ab009e4 in NoatunApp::NoatunApp () from /usr/lib/libnoatun.so.0 #9 0x8049b1a in QDataStream::~QDataStream () #10 0x2b8db2db in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 I am guessing that there is some incompatibility between noatun and the lib versions I'm currently running, but that is the limit of my experience. I am reluctant to start updating libs as doing so in the past has left me with un-recoverable problems before. If noatun won't run, I'll just purge it for now and wait for the freeze and update the entire system then. I'm still waiting for a few more things so I'm used to it by now. Thanks for any info and help. Cheers, John Gay