Hi there. It's become annoying to try to keep Sid on my machine, with KDE 3.5 on. A few KDE 3.5 apps I need to use started breaking, and I had other annoyances. So I'm trying 4.2 again.
I still have the same problems as before. Before reporting these as bugs, perhaps other people could give me suggestions. I've tried researching for info on most of these, but I can't seem to find answers. Yes, there are a large number of them. This is why I didn't want to use KDE 4 originally :-/ - Konsole no longer has configurable inactivity time setting. It defaults to 10 seconds, which is too short for me in many cases. - Ctrl+Alt+Backspace seems to have been disabled. I'm already using the Dontzap serverflags xorg.conf option, that doesn't seem to make a difference (I disagree with with xorg having changed this package, and users not being warned afaict, but that's offtopic for this list...). - I can't configure the date format in the system tray clock. It shows "3 Jun 2009", I want it to show 2009-06-03 - When I installed kde-full with aptitude, sound wasn't working in any any apps (even mpg321 on the command-line), and the KDE sound settings couldn't detect backends. I think that phonon was blocking /dev/pcm (for example) in such a way that apps can't use them any more, but not able to play sound sent to the devices. The only sound that worked was the KDE login and logout sounds. It was by pure chance that I found out about gstreamer backends and tried installing a few of those packages, which seemed to fix things. I didn't notice a recommend/suggest for gstreamer plugins when installing the kde4-full package. - The USB device detection popup from the bottom bar, gives an option to unmount, but when I use that option, the entire bottom bar freezes up, and I have to restart kdm on the command-line (which I have to go to with ctrl+alt+f1 since I can't use Ctrl+Alt+Backspace any more) to get my system back into working order. - Sometimes when my system is under load, compositing is switched off. I don't seem to be able to turn it back on. I tried going to System Settings -> Desktop. Enable desktop effects was still checked. I tried unchecking and re-checking it, but I got an error message saying that it couldn't reenable. I also found info on the web about pressing ctrl+shift+f12, but that didn't seem to make any difference. Compositing was only reenabled when I restarted kdm on the command-line - Many of the downloadable plasmoids (when you go to "install widgits") have errors and don't work at all. - I used to be able to set a "Redmond" KDE theme in kpersonalizer, which made the windows and keyboard shortcuts work like Windows XP. I can't seem to find the theme, or an equivalent to kpersonalizer. For instance, I usually use windows key-M to minimize all Windows. To fix that, I had to disable Meta-M in Amarok, install the "Show the Desktop" plasmoid, and set it to activate with Meta-M. - The migration process is a bit weird. Sometimes you need to login twice into KDE 4.2 (after upgrading from 3.5) for the migration wizard to pop up. - Kmail seems to lose several settings from 3.5. For instance, I need to re-add the sender info (SMTP server, etc). - The new Kmail layout with aggregation was confusing. I turned it back to a flat view as soon as I found out how. - The startup progress display (with icons that animate from left to right) disappears if you click outside it. The KDE startup completes, but it doesn't look very nice. Yes, I shouldn't click outside, but it still bothers me me. - The application launcher seems to have two matches for many applications. eg if I type in "amarok", then I get these two results: Amarok Audio Player (Amarok) - Konsole has hidden away many of the features I use daily. I now need to go through menus or keyboard shortcuts, instead of being able to click on visible icons, or find them in the context menus. - KWrite has beome weird. I can't seem to set the indentation/hilighting type anywhere, it autodetects, and I don't seem to be able to manually set the hilighting type. - Kwrite doesn't set the correct auto-indentation for Python. I have to go into the Kwrite settings and change the indentation there, which will probably affect editing of non-Python source files. - The application launcher program doesn't always automatically close when you click outside. Sometimes I have to click on it's icon on the bottom of the screen to make it close. - I can't find a way to set the "KDE 3.5" "look and feel" for KDE 4.2. 3.5 had a nostalgic (win 95/98)-like simplicity, with very little bling, but it was very functional. I'd love it I could set apps back to that window theme instead of the newer OSX/Windows-like shininess. The shininess and effects are nice, but I prefer KDE 3.5's somewhat spartan and highly responsive UI more. I think those are most of the things I've noticed so far. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org