Hello,

On Thu, Apr 23, 2026 at 12:00:22AM +0200, Md Ayquassar wrote:
> > IIRC gdm is already known to not work with xorg any more
> 
> You probably mean specifically gdm3, as gdm vanished over a decade ago (but 
> there are gdm3, libgdm-dev, and libgdm1). GDM3 and xorg is exactly what we 
> use on the machine in question running Debian trixie:
> 
> gdm3 48.0-2
> libgdm1 48.0-2
> xorg 1:7.7+24+deb13u1
> gnome-shell 48.7-0+deb13u2
> 
> Does your statement above refer to higher versions of gdm3 and xorg in 
> testing/unstable/upstream?
> 
> > So let me suggest to switch to wayland and assuming that doesn't work, […]
> 
> “suggest switching” :-)
> 
> We tried Wayland a couple of times in the last 5–6 years.
> 
> In my recollection, 2–3 years ago, Xorg was forced for our graphics card via 
> the udev rules (which, in my recollection, were quite coarse at the time and 
> ruled out quite a huge class of NVIDIA cards, if not all of them).
> 
> On our last attempt early this year, Xorg was no longer forced, so Wayland 
> tried to get started, but the initialization of the graphical user interface 
> (probably GDM3 or some routing preceding GDM3) kept restarting itself, so 
> even switching to a plaintext console was difficult. We finally succeeded to 
> run Wayland: to this end, we added the boot options `nomodeset` or 
> `nouveau.config=NvGspRm=0`, but the former resulted in poor resolution, and 
> with the latter we got so many repeating error messages from nouveau in the 
> log that we decided to switch back to xorg.
> 
> We could retry Wayland once newer versions of the aforementioned packages 
> arise. We will be able to report here, but I think the Wayland issues deserve 
> a bug report of its own (against which package?).

I think your best bet is to forward the issues upstream. For nouveau
that would be mailing to [email protected].

It is also be worth a try to run a newer kernel (from unstable or
backports) before reporting upstream because they usually prefer reports
about recent kernels---and the situation might have improved there.

Best regards
Uwe

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