On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 08:40:49AM -0700, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: > On Thursday 05 September 2002 08:02 am, c tripp wrote: > > thanks everybody for the quick response. i am in fact using konqueror. > > new to linux as i am, i'm curious about the fact that everyone seems to be > > pro-"mozilla". is it better than konqueror in some way...? perhaps i > > should migrate. > > > > in the meantime, does anyone know the appropriate apt-get info for the > > file(s) i need to enable konqueror? You need the kde crypto support. > I use both konq and Mozillla, in addition to lynx and links console text > browsers. I even have opera. I also have netscape. Sometimes it is handy > to have different browsers for different web sites. I have found that Konqueror's javascript support is incomplete, its java works fine (as long as you have it installed) and people can't figure out where to tweak cookies even with a very cute cupcake icon in preferences.
At an internet lounge I just ran, tweaking cookies on, off, or flushed was a very highly desired feature and all of the major browsers will be hearing abug report filing about it. I often tweak the cookies state but just didn't think how much digging through menus it is until this. > I visited one site that insisted I either use IE or Netscape, it simply > wouldn't work with konq and opera. I keep my browsers honest, so they > identify as themselves. Opera worked fine from a js perspective but it's so full of whizbang that people felt lost. SO lost in fact, that I hardly think they noticed the ads. > Mozilla is in my opinion the fullest featured and most able browser available > for Linux today. Konq is in my opinion the fastest (if you are already > running kde). I also use Galeon, but that is more like a spiffy front end to > Mozilla, and still isn't as fast on this machine running Woody. Galeon really is mozilla, different skin. Find me a way to use less than all of Mozilla on low-quality systems (only 32 or 40 MB of true RAM) and I'll be paying closer attention. > Opera rarely gets used these days. I'll probably remove it since all the > others do what it could/should. > > You will need to locate pluggins for them. This is a pain imo. Konq is > supposed to use netscape (therefore Mozilla) pluggins, but half the time when > I visit a flash enabled site, konq opens ten pages pointing to flash > downloads! Actually, half the time I visit a flash enabled site, it goes crazy with the stupid pop-ups and pop-unders, so that may just be a speed issue... I love the current Mozilla's ability to deny extra window launches, but I wish I could allow it on a persite basis the way cookies and js-overall are. IE's "security zones" is not really good enough. > Java is another one you will probably want. I used the recommend jre2 from > blackdown. The non-free package has been Debianized, so you can simply add > that line to your /etc/apt/sources.list and install it pain free. The one > problem with this Java is it is S L O W, but fully functional. > Good luck on getting them all set up. Is there a debian package for the zen browser? I don't think it speaks to X yet, but at least it is gui. (while we're pulling all of 'em out of a hat) * Heather Stern * star@ many places...
