Dave, I think first of all, that you must take care the language used here. If you have the knowledge to avoid the spams, maybe you have to work on the solution, talking with DD instead "offer your services".
El dom., 2 de dic. de 2018 a la(s) 22:10, Marvin Renich (m...@renich.org) escribió: > * Dave Horsfall <d...@horsfall.org> [181202 17:58]: > > Have you idiots ever thought of implementing some simple anti-spam > measures? > > I have offered my services (free) many times, but thus far have been > > ignored, so I can only assume that you lot are spam-supporters. > > > > Am I right? As it happens, I am in the middle of upgrading a Penguin > box; > > all you have to do is say the word, and it'll run FreeBSD instead. > > First, calling people names on this list is not acceptable behavior. > > Second, you addressed the message to the list, not the list masters, so > you just called everyone on this list an idiot, even though almost no > one on this list has any direct control over the anti-spam measures in > place. The list masters are unlikely to be subscribed to every Debian > mailing list, as they are a relatively small group that administers all > the official @lists.debian.org lists. To find their email address, go > to https://lists.debian.org/ (and note they likely did not see any of > your previous offers of help). > > Third, the list masters are professional and expert email > administrators, and they volunteer their time to run the Debian mailing > lists. Characterizing them as idiots is not only extremely rude, but as > far from the truth as you can get. > > Fourth, calling someone names is not an effective way to get them to > want to help you. > > Fifth, there are substantial anti-spam measures in place, as evidenced > by the fact that extremely few spam messages actually get through. > Without any anti-spam measures, you would not be able to find the > legitimate email messages due to the quantity of spam. > > Sixth, if you go to https://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ and find the > email, you can click on the "Report as spam" button. This is a big help > to the list masters. > > Seventh, the list masters welcome suggestions for spamassassin rules > (and other changes). There was a recent message on debian-devel@l.d.o > giving a hint how to do that, but I'm not motivated to go find it for > you. I believe it was last month; you can search the archives. > > Eighth, _why_ did you quote the spam message? If you have enough > expertise in anti-spam measures to be offering your assistance, you > ought to know that including the spam content in a legitimate email > makes it much more difficult to train any Bayesian filters in place. > > ...Marvin > > -- Arias Emmanuel http://eamanu.com Github/Gitlab; @eamanu Debian: @eamanu-guest
