"Grzegorz B. Prokopski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 2005-13-01 at 20:15 +0100, Måns Rullgård wrote: >> "Grzegorz B. Prokopski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > On Thu, 2005-13-01 at 19:55 +0100, Måns Rullgård wrote: >> >> "Grzegorz B. Prokopski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> I fail to see the relevance of this paragraph to the discussion at >> >> hand. The alleged incompatibility was between the interpreter (JVM) >> >> and the program being interpreted. Does Eclipse make explicit use of >> >> libraries licensed under the GPL? >> > >> > It surely does explicitely call java.lang.Object.wait() quite often >> >> java.lang.Object is part of the standard Java API published by Sun >> (http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/lang/Object.html). >> >> > (as any multithreaded java program), which in turn calls the JVM, >> >> Quite so. >> >> > which is purely GPLed. >> >> Incorrect. There exists a GPL JVM for sure, but there also exist >> other JVM implementations (e.g. Sun's) equally capable of running >> Eclipse. > > Please don't get that theorhetical. What we have here is an explicit > usage,
Eclipse does not explicitly use *anything* from *any* JVM/class library. Saying java.lang.Object doesn't say anything about which implementation shall be used. > not pure "possibilities", if there exist another implementations > then use it and do not infridge on the GPL. The Eclipse authors do not tell you which JVM to use. > Now, in our case, Eclipse is linked agains a libraries that ARE GPLed. No, it is being interpreted by an interpreter that is covered by the GPL. Even the FSF admits that this does not create a derived work. > We are compiling GPL-incompatible code against purely GPLed headers. Who is compiling what code? Since when does Java have headers? > Please see Linus's email I cited in my other emails for more info. > > Would it have been compiled against a differently licensed library, > this particular problem would be solved. Wouldn't it? It is compiled against an interface, not an implementation. Which particular implementation was used while compiling is irrelevant. -- Måns Rullgård [EMAIL PROTECTED]
