On Fri, 2005-14-01 at 20:56 +0100, Dalibor Topic wrote: > Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > > > I am. I'm not talking about the .deb file containing Eclipse. If you > > think you can provide someone with the Eclipse IDE program without > > providing a JVM, I invite you to try. > > You mean like Fedora? Eclipse 3 nicely compiled to native with gcj, yum, > and balzing fast, for all I've heard. I wish debian had better gcj > support. :) > > > When I instruct my computer running the Debian OS to load and run > > eclipse, the code from some JVM package and the code from the Eclipse > > package and from dozens of others are loaded into memory. The process > > on my computer is mechanical, so we should look back and see who has > > designed and created this particular combination. In this case, it > > was Debian, who took the top level Eclipse component and selected > > a particular JVM and particular support libraries to include. > > That's the 'running is illegal/GPL puts restrictions on use' fallacy. :) > > You can't violate the GPL of a program by running it. The GPL only talks > about 'copying, distribution and modification', and explicitely says > 'The act of running the Program is not restricted'. > > Whether the GPLd program loads non-GPLd works in memory is irrelevant. > What's relevant is whether works are actually copies, modifictions or > derived works. Or all my e-mail would have to be GPLd, as it's loaded > into the memory of a GPLd program :)
Your email messages do not contain calls to GPLed functions, do they? It's quite a stretch to compare "dead data", like text, with something as dynamic, as bytecode, which not only can be created, modified, translated or interpreted by a JVM, but it can also explicitely make use of JVM functionality (which happens to be GPLed in case of GPLed JVMs). The analogy you gave sounds broken. Grzegorz B. Prokopski -- Grzegorz B. Prokopski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SableVM - Free, LGPL'ed Java VM http://sablevm.org Why SableVM ?!? http://sablevm.org/wiki/Features Debian GNU/Linux - the Free OS http://www.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]