* Branden Robinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030908 02:35]: > On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 12:03:41PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > I would say that replacal of the Sun-code should be a release goal for > > sarge+1, except if the matter could be clarified with Sun or someone > > stands up right now to actually write the code.
> Why? We can just put off fixing it then, too. > > It seems there will always be more important things to do than ensure > that Debian Will Remain 100% Free Software.[1] No. You're misinterpreting my opinion. In my opinion Debian Should become 100% Free Software. Perhaps I try a clarification (and I'm still not convinced that the Sun RPC-code is not DFSG, and/or that it is not ok to distribute it with the glibc, but I know that it's the other way round: We must be satisfied that code is DFSG-free and distributable, so I'm not discussing about this now): I can see several lines of action now, roughly as follows (this list is not orderd by preference): 1. Don't care about the issue any more, or get permission by sun (permission would be the best of course) 2. Release sarge now with the code, and sarge+1 in about a year with code with another license 3. Replace the code with something else, and release sarge after appropriate testing time, i.e. in about a year. 4. Remove the code from sarge, and release sarge without RPC, and add free code to sarge+1. 5. Remove the code from woody, sarge and sid and add free code to sarge+1. This would lead to the following code in stable (whichever release name stable is, release name in []): now Oct 03 Dez 03 Oct 04 1 sun[woody] sun[woody] sun[sarge] sun[sarge+1] 2 sun[woody] sun[woody] sun[sarge] new[sarge+1] 3 sun[woody] sun[woody] sun[woody] new[sarge] 4 sun[woody] sun[woody] none[sarge] new[sarge+1] 5 sun[woody] none[woody] none[sarge] new[sarge+1] So, the question is which of these ways is acceptable. If way 3 is acceptable to you (replace the code before release of sarge), what is the problem with way 2? I can't see the difference between the two ways in relation to freedom of Debian. But, going 2 instead of 3 has the advantage that a lot of other problems of our users are solved. So, either be consequent and remove this code from woody r2 (and/or relase sarge without RPC-code soon), or let this code stay in sarge. I can't see any benefit of delaying sarge while distributing this actual piece of code in stable. I hope that my considerations are more understandable now. It's not about compromising the freeness of Debian. It's about removing a (possible) compromise with the least damage. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C