On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 05:03:30PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> account; I agree that it should have.  I don't have much experience with
> designing trademark licenses, as you can tell.  Having a trademark license
...
> Why don't we simply start with a permissive copyright license,
> and a statement like this:
> 
> "This copyright license does not grant a trademark license.  
>
> "The Debian Open Use Logo is a trademark of the Debian Project.  The Debian
> Project is still trying to decide on trademark policy.  We hope we will
> have a better trademark license for you soon.  In the meantime, the Debian
> Open Use Logo trademark may be used by anyone to refer to the Debian
> project, but does not indicate endorsement by the project.  Anyone is, of
> course, also permitted to use the logo in any way which conforms to the
> copyright license and does not infringe on Debian's trademark rights."

You're talking about trademark rights here, rather than copyright rights,
so calling that a copyright license, and claiming that it doesn't grant
trademark rights seems somewhat useless.

Also, it's not clear to me that trademarks are copyrightable works.
Anyone already has permission to use a trademark in any context --
indeed, in arbitrarily copyrighted works -- as long as they use it to
correctly identify what it's supposed to identify.

I don't see any serious reason to try to pretend otherwise.

-- 
Raul

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