On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:46:24 +1000, Anthony Towns <aj@azure.humbug.org.au> said:
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 08:00:55AM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 03:26:58PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: >> > Why fight at all? If having a free license is so obviously >> > correct, why force people to do it? If some people are >> > uncomfortable with it, why fight that? >> Even within Debian, it's become clear to me that, if we want >> DFSG-free things, it has to be mandatory and enforced, > Of course, within Debian DFSG-freeness isn't mandatory or enforced: > you can upload to non-free instead of main just by tweaking your > control file. I am sure you are aware that is not part of Debian. Perhaps it was wring not to throw non-free archives off Debian machines, if such confusion is rampant. > And that lack of compulsion, coupled with a fairly strong > endorsement of DFSG-free content has resulted in DFSG-free software > making up 98% of unstable. And 100% of Debian. > I don't believe I've seen anyone debate my use of the (aiui) > non-DFSG-free CC ShareAlike/Attrib clause on my debbugs paper this > year. I was not aware that you were soliciting opinions. If you are, I find it deplorable. I saw no benefit in sharing my opinion after the fact, but am perfectly willing to do so if you think my rectitude was implicit approval. > There's no actual requirement for debate there either, the people > who want to license their paper in non-DFSG-free way can happily > leave the last word to the DFSG advocates because they don't have to > debate to get their way; Only if they want their papers in a collection which is actually part of Debian, they do too. > and the advocacy and arguments about the DFSG are more likely to > have a long term effect than the license on any paper presented at a > conference. Any advocacy of the DFSG by an organization that happily accepts non-free licenses when it is convenient, smacks so much of hypocrisy to be unpersuasive. But that is just my opinion. manoj -- You have the power to influence all with whom you come in contact. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]