On Thu, 29 Sep 2016, Ab B wrote: > I've only looked at ubuntu but it seems like it's maintained at least > there. It looks like mint 15 which dw says is the most popular distro > seems to use it.
It is gone from Ubuntu. It will not be present in their next stable release, refer to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd-shim AFAIK, that means the maintenance it will get in Ubuntu will be the usual for deep-maintenance-only mode packages in stable releases, i.e. security fixes and critical issues only. > And I think your predictions sound a little dire. I'm no expert but > systemd does seem to be a very active project, which made me > concerned, but their external interfaces are fairly stable. That > leads me to hope that maintaining a shim will require a lot less > effort than it could in a scenario like the one you suggest. The shim is not perfect, and cgmanager is also missing functionality... should that cause important issues, it needs fixing and improvements upstream. > If upstream wants to pass the torch and someone takes it up that's > great. If upstream just drops the project, then, well, that's a > problem for ~14k debian users and a lot more users from other distros. AFAIK, there are no users from other distros. Derivatives *usually* don't count as help for this kind of package: they depend on the work done by either Debian or Ubuntu. And it has just lost all Ubuntu derivatives such as Linux Mint, along with Ubuntu. > One thing I'd like to do is reach out to sysd-shim maintainers in > other distros. I wish you good luck with that. I don't even know of any non-derivative distros that use systemd-shim... maybe some of the Debian derivatives will be interested in helping, but usually that would mean they would be doing the work in Debian directly already. > But, in the end, sysd-shim seems to be a fairly recent release. I'd > like to try to nurse it along for the next couple of months and see > how things go. Eh, as long as you actually know what you are signing up for. If you want an easy package, *this one is not going to be it in the long run* unless someone else helps with the upstream side, that is. This assumes the current upstream did not have a change of heart and is now enthusiastic about maintaining systemd-shim or something ;-) > I personally don't have any plans right now to take over upstream, but > maybe that will change if I get more familiar with the code. That would be really nice, yes. I hope you will do it. -- Henrique Holschuh