On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 22:10 +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 2010-07-20 20:14, Chris Baines wrote: > > Hello, > > > > My name is Chris and I have just started using Debian. I would like to > > build a Debian package for the Lejos NXJ project > > (http://lejos.sourceforge.net/). Its a replacement firmware and java api > > for a commercially available robotics platform, the Lego NXT. While I > > understand this is not the easiest program to package, I do want to > > still try. > > > > Hi Chris and welcome. > > Thanks for your interest in Debian and packaging for Debian. > > I suspect you are right when you say it is not the easiest; personally I > can recommend starting with smaller packages until you get the hang of > general packaging. > But if you firmly believe that you can handle both the documentation > for packaging Debian packages in general, Java packages and this > particular package all in one go, then I will not stop you. > > That being said, if you find it all too overwhelming, do not be afraid > to admit it and take a few smaller packages to get a feel of it. I have > found myself putting one of my more complex packages on hold in favour > of some easier packages just to get the steam back up. > > > On a more practical note, you may want to join the Java Team - you > probably will not find any better place to get help on Java related > issues and when your package is done, the team also have a number of > Java interested DDs to review and upload your package. The team have > also produced a number of helper tools to assist building Java packages > depending on the build system. > > Finally, I am not sure how much documentation you have read about > general packaging, but if you have not already done so, you will need to > declare your intend to package this program. > This is done by either retitling and taking ownership of an existing > "Request For Package" (RFP) bug on this software or filing a new "Intend > To Package" (ITP) bug against wnpp. It goes without saying that if there > already is an ITP bug, then you should ask the owner of that bug if you > can join as a co-maintainer. > reportbug has a template for filing an ITP bug, for taking over an RFP > you may want to look at the bts script or reading [BTS]. > > There are a few guides on how to do the packaging e.g. [0], [1] and [2]. > Then there is the Java Team info [3] and (once you have gotten an idea > of how general packaging works) a short set of examples for "how to use > various Java helper tools" [4]. Reading the Developer's Reference might > also be useful [5]. Then there is the Debian Policy[6], which formally > dictates the requirements for your package, plus the Java Policy[7]. > > I know it is a lot of reading (I have been here as well), but take it a > little at the time. > > Finally if you are new to the Debian Bug Tracker (BTS), then there is an > IRC lesson on it Thursday at 1800 UTC in the Ubuntu Classroom[8]. They > may also have other classes they may be interesting/useful for you and > your packaging. While some things are done differently in Ubuntu, the > concepts of how to do a package is more or less the same. > > > I have however run in to a couple of problems I was hoping you could > > help me with. Firstly, to compile it requires the cpptasks java library > > (http://ant-contrib.sourceforge.net/cpptasks/index.html) for ant and > > currently as far as I can tell this is not included with Debian. It > > looks to be separate, but part of the ant-contrib project that is > > included with Debian. I don't want to really package this as well. How > > should I move forward? > > > > You need to figure out if it is in Debian or not. If it isn't you may > want to request its inclusion either as a part of the ant-contrib package. > In that case you probably want to file a bug against ant-contrib, > asking the maintainers (the Java Team as far as I recall) to include it. > > > Secondly, I have little understanding of the usb permissions on Debian. > > I have done some basic tests and the device can't be accessed without > > root permissions on a standard installation of Debian. The project > > readme says: > > To use udev rules, set up a file such > > as /etc/udev/rules.d/70-lego.rules and populate it with the > > following lines: > > # Lego NXT > > BUS=="usb", SYSFS{idVendor}=="03eb", GROUP="lego", MODE="0660" > > BUS=="usb", SYSFS{idVendor}=="0694", GROUP="lego", MODE="0660" > > > > This relies on the username you are using being in the lego > > group. You can modify the file to your requirements. The two > > vendors are LEGO and Atmel (for the samba driver used in > > firmware update mode). You may need to reload the rules or > > restart udev. On some Linux systems, the command to reload the > > rules is udevadm control --reload-rules. > > > > However I don't believe this is the best solution, the device just needs > > to be accessible by the normal user, does a specific group need to be > > added just for this purpose? > > > > Cannot help here, sorry :) > > > Thanks, > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once again, welcome and thanks for your interest - if you have any > questions, feel free to ask. > > ~Niels > > [BTS] http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control > > [0] http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ > > [1] http://wiki.debian.org/HowToPackageForDebian > > [2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide > NB: This is a packaging guide for Ubuntu, since there are differences in > the Debian and the Ubuntu Infrastructure there are things from this > guide that may not apply directly or may require adaptation to the > Debian setup. However the parts of how a package is set up properly is > fairly consistent between both Distros. > > [3] http://pkg-java.alioth.debian.org/ > > [4] http://pkg-java.alioth.debian.org/examples/ > Note: while not listed here, there also "maven" helper tools. If your > upstream uses maven as build system (or something not listed), then ask > and I will point you in the right direction. > > [5] http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/index.html > This is a general reference, so there are parts which may not be > interesting for you right now. > > [6] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ > Warning: This is neither to read nor the most exciting document to read. > Unfortunately, it is /the/ rule book that defines if a package is up to > Debian's Standards or not. > > [7] http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/java-policy/ > > [8] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Packaging/Training > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEAREIAAYFAkxGAtEACgkQVCqoiq1YlqwJgACgvDbce5rfIRz9iT+usNkm8E7Z > FoMAoMvYbK8YjLHUR5hRayqwt7vibMCf > =iKXr > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >
Thanks for your quick reply, I have now joined the java team's mailing list and sent them a message about cpptasks. I have tried filing a ITP package bug however the reportbug gui kept crashing and the bug I submitted using the cli has yet to appear online. Thanks again, Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1279698311.2599.39.ca...@chris-debian-desktop