On 17 December 2010 13:45, Matthias Klose <d...@debian.org> wrote: > On 11.12.2010 17:40, Stephen Kitt wrote: >> >> On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:28:10 +1030, Ron<r...@debian.org> wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:29:24PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: >>>> >>>> On 23.11.2010 12:49, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: >>>>> >>>>> debian-gcc is a bit specific to the native libc based toolchains and >>>>> cross-toolchains using libc. I didn't manage to find an easy place to >>>>> plugin mingw-w64 bootstrap into that packaging. >>>> >>>> You might want to have a look at Marcin's cross-build packages, >>>> using the gcc-, binutils- and eglibc- source packages. >>> >>> I wasn't aware of Marcin's work, but I also agree this is probably >>> the best avenue to explore if these are all building from identical >>> source. I believe Robert's original attempt even did exactly this, >>> and I tried to point Stephen in this direction too when he first >>> contacted me, but I think that point got lost, and I got too busy >>> to point again in more detail immediately. >> >> I'm not sure whether it got lost or not, my packages (with Dmitrijs' >> contributions) currently build-depend on binutils-source and >> gcc-4.5-source >> and avoid duplicating anything from the original binutils and gcc >> packages; in >> fact I went to some effort (see my bug reports against gcc-4.5-source, now >> resolved) to make sure the resulting packages would not only use the >> tarballs >> provided in the -source packages but also apply any relevant patches. >> >>> AIUI, the main problem with this is that the distro archive tools >>> currently don't have good support for ensuring these 'binary' -source >>> packages will remain available and linked to the derivative binary >>> debs that might be built from them and uploaded to the distro. >>> >>> I believe ftp-master indicated to Robert that this could be fixed, >>> but he went back to the quick and dirty duplication instead. If >>> there are people with time to spend on this, talking to the archive >>> maintenance people about what needs to be done for that, and when >>> and how it might happen, is probably a productive step at this point. >> >> Indeed; I'm not sure what Matthias means by >> >> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 22:29:24 +0100, Matthias Klose<d...@debian.org> >> wrote: >>> >>> this is already guaranteed by the gcj and gnat builds by only relying on >>> the tarball in the gcc-4.x-source package. >> >> I imagine this could mean that the gcj and gnats builds don't use the >> patches >> in the gcc-4.x-source package, and only use the tarball which won't change >> from one Debian version to another (e.g. 4.5.1-1 to 4.5.1-2 etc.)... > > yes. > >> That >> seems a shame to me since the patches are useful, and it still leaves the >> problem of having a package build using gcc-4.5-source 4.5-1 for example, >> and >> then gcc-4.5-source being replaced with version 4.5.1-1 with a new >> tarball. > > no, the tarball doesn't change. it's in the .orig.tar.gz. all other > patches/packging are synced with the gcc-4.5 package. Nothing is lost, all > patches are applied. > >> The other solution based on Marcin's work, which is also readily supported >> by >> the existing -source packages, requires that the target architecture be >> understood by dpkg (as pointed out by Dmitrijs); that may be a worthwhile >> goal, notably since it solves the problem of how to provide build packages >> for the various libraries people find useful, but it's a much longer-term >> goal as far as I can see... > > otoh, this approach breaks more often with updates on patches and packaging. > Manageable however. >
I have been running the daily build of gcc-4.4 trunk, binutils-trunk with mingw-w64-trunk and there were no breakages (if something was broken it was fixed within 24h by any one of these packages). So I believe it will be manageable. I'm pending inclusion of mingw-w64 triplet. See debbug #606825. > Matthias > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimssl57wzvrr3sla16mw+9v6ilgroutl+z=i...@mail.gmail.com