On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 03:48:56AM +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: > On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 09:08:42PM +0100, Lenart Janos wrote:
> Then you might not have misspelt my name. Ooops. Really sorry for that, Kumria. > Maybe. But you have not yet demonstrated that these applicants who have > been approved recently are any worse or better than existing maintainers. I am not talking about every applicant. > Until you can provide something interesting (one or two cases aren't > statistically significant) you are just hand-waving and expending a lot > of hot-air. Yes, I have to say that you have some true in that I am `expending a lot of hot-air`. :-/ Anyway, I have a reason to. Just take a look at the NM list page[1] and the lintian permaintainer reports[2]. It would take me a lot's of time to analyze it in every NMs case, and I don't want to write here just some names. The best is to see it for yourself: pick an NM from the list[1], than see his lintian report[2]. Repeat this. (NMs without packages does not count) Then, try to pick some non-NM reports[2]. I know that non-NM has reports too, but some NM has a very long listing, and I don't know how they have been accepted. (Please, let me not to tell names, and don't want to hurt anyone.) > > Our philosophy is 'help the applicants'. > ' ... to help themselves' I said this corresponding to the NM procedure. > You aren't able to tell how esponsive a prospective maintainer is. Oly > the frontdesk and DAM are (since they get more detailed reports). What I can see is buggy packages. (There are good NMs too, but now, we are talking about the 'bad' ones.) > > spend time for applicants who don't read manuals, just ask. They should > > be rejected after one or two questions. For example, that's trivial > > that some of them can't even use gpg, don't know about lintian, etc. > Eh? Perhaps the hungarian translation is better than the English one > but I get plenty of question about GPG all the time. Erm, did you meant the translation of the GPG's documentation or my mail's translation? I answare both of them: (gpg) I haven't read the Hungarian translation, I am not even sure it exists. (my mail) I don't know what don't you understand on my mail. Please ask about it. > Are you being sarcastic? _NOT_ It was very serious. I really think it may help. > The problems with that approach are many (see the earlier archives of > this mailing list -- are they available at all?)> one obvious one is > that the database of questions is finite and we will> soon have been > with a list of all the questions and correct answers> selling them. I don't think so that someone would publish the right answares. But anyway this would be better than nothing. Not? > No, those applicants who are unable to understand the output of lintian > Any idiot can run a tool - not all of them can understand it. I am sorry that some doesn't understand that. I am not telling to ignore every question, but most of lintian output is very easy to understand. Please note, that I don't want bad to anyone. I just want Debian to stay on top, and I think all of us want the same. I am writing down what I think, what I see, my ideas just in Debian's interest. I don't say I am right, but that's why we are discussing. p.s: Sorry again for mispelling your name. -- Lenart Janos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
