On 05/06/2014 12:58:49 AM, Rene Engelhard wrote: > severity 747132 wishlist > found 747132 1:4.1.5-2 > thanks > > On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 03:21:37PM -0500, Karl O. Pinc wrote: > > The libreoffice metapackage (in wheezy and experimental) > > recommends the liberation fonts. These fonts should > > instead be recommended by the individual libreoffice > > components. The components need them, even when > > installed individually. > > If you have stuff using Arial, yes. So you suggest every component > doing anything with fonts (so everything except Base recommend it)?
Yes. Although, as you say, you could fudge if you cared to and have core recommend it. > Will think about it: if we did it it probably should be -core > recommending > it (as it does all the font stuff.) > > > Installing just the components and not the metapackage > > (and, I presume, not the ttf-liberation fonts or whatever > > Yes, but doing that should be done by people who know what they do. Whether people who don't know what they're doing should be "allowed" to install individual libreoffice components is, to me, the crux of the matter. Are the components, writer, calc, etc., available stand-alone or not? The typical computer user (most people out there) don't use all the components. The most basic user (the proverbial grandmother) gets confused by having too many choices in their menus. If they only use writer and calc that's all that should appear in the menus. It is for all of these people, the ones who perhaps know enough to install only what they'll use and the ones who need somebody else to manage their computer and need the simplest possible setup, that it's important that the component packages be independently installable. Further, there's a big "middle" group of people between the typical users, above, and the people who are able to actually figure out what the problem is when things break because just a few components are installed. If it looks like you should be able to install just, e.g., writer, then you should be able to do so without having a system you can't fix. I can't say how you might go about doing so but if the individual components don't stand on their own then most people really need to be discouraged from installing them. (The people I support fall into the latter category, those who get confused by too many menu choices. They get the web, email, and writer. And a printer. Adding anything else creates problems.) Thanks for considering this. Regards, Karl <[email protected]> Free Software: "You don't pay back, you pay forward." -- Robert A. Heinlein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1399383215.10668.10@slate

