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and subject line Bug#775740: fixed in developers-reference 3.4.23
has caused the Debian Bug report #775740,
regarding developers-reference: please clarify the recipients when sending to 
123-submitter@b.d.o
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Package: developers-reference
Version: 3.4.14
Severity: wishlist

Hi,

in the d-devel thread starting here [1] I learned that
123-submitter@b.d.o is only sent to the bts and the submitter but *not*
to the maintainer. This came as a surprise to me after reading section
5.8.2. of devref which currently says:

> When responding to bugs, make sure that any discussion you have about
> bugs is sent both to the original submitter of the bug, and to the bug
> itself (e.g., <1...@bugs.debian.org>). If you're writing a new mail and
> you don't remember the submitter email address, you can use the
> <123-submit...@bugs.debian.org> email to contact the submitter and to
> record your mail within the bug log (that means you don't need to send
> a copy of the mail to <1...@bugs.debian.org>).

So the above paragraph suggests that sending an email to 123@b.d.o and
the submitter email is the same as sending it to 123-submitter@b.d.o
while in fact the latter will not send the mail to the package
maintainer. The last sentence even says that I don't need to send a copy
to 123@b.d.o while in fact I should such that the maintainer of the
package gets a copy.

So this paragraph should either:

 - clarify that this course of action is only the right one for packages
   where *I* am the submitter (as in this cases there is no need to also
   send the email to myself)
 - or explicitly state to whom email is sent in each case

Maybe the paragraph should be completely reformulated like this:

> When responding to bugs, make sure that any discussion you have about
> bugs is sent to the original submitter of the bug, the bug itself and
> (if you are not the maintainer of the package) the maintainer. Sending
> an email to 1...@bugs.debian.org will send the mail to the maintainer
> of the package and record your email with the bug log. If you don't
> remember the submitter email address, you can use
> 123-submit...@bugs.debian.org to also contact the submitter of the
> bug. The latter address also records the email with the bug log, so if
> you are the maintainer of the package in question, it is enough to
> send the reply to 123-submit...@bugs.debian.org. Otherwise you should
> include 1...@bugs.debian.org so that you also reach the package
> maintainer.

Thanks!

cheers, josch

[1] http://lists.debian.org/54bc1734.5050...@sourcepole.ch

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Source: developers-reference
Source-Version: 3.4.23

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
developers-reference, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 775...@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
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Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org> (supplier of updated developers-reference 
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Format: 1.8
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:44:03 +0100
Source: developers-reference
Architecture: source
Version: 3.4.23
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Developers Reference Maintainers <debian-policy@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Closes: 376590 430889 483232 494470 775740 817914 839885 855320 908155
Changes:
 developers-reference (3.4.23) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Holger Wansing ]
   * Globally change "new maintainer" into "new member". Closes: #817914.
 .
   [ Holger Levsen ]
   * scope.dbk: extend: s#Debian developers#Debian developers and maintainers#
   * tools.dbk:
     - stop recommending remote signing of packages, especially using debrsign.
       Closes: #855320. Thanks to Daniel Kahn Gillmor.
     - slightly reword existing paragraph about dch and debchange.
       Closes: #494470.
   * best-pkging-practices.dbk: add another example of a multi binary source
     package. Closes: #430889.
   * l10n.dbk: drop paragraph about Debian specific manpages maintained in cvs.
   * developer-duties.dbk: improve paragraph about coordinating with upstreams.
     Closes: #908155. Thanks to Ian Jackson and Wouter Verhelst for the
     wording.
   * pkgs.dbk:
     - clarify the recipients of 123-submitter@b.d.o. Closes: #775740.
       Thanks to Josch Schauer for the wording.
     - don't suggest to test downgrading packages. Closes: #376590.
       Thanks to Justin Pryzby.
     - add a paragraph to the section about reintroducing packages to check and
       update the security tracker metadata. Closes: #839885.
       Thanks to Paul Wise.
   * beyond-pkging.dbk: mention mass-bugs for reporting bugs against many
     packages. Closes: #483232. Thanks to Sandro Tosi for the suggestion.
   * common.ent:
     - drop url-cvsweb.
     - switch five http urls to https, leaving one http url.
   * d/control: mark all binary packages as multiarch: foreign.
   * Update po4a/po/developers-reference.pot and po4a/po/*.po for the new and
     changed strings.
   * README.contributing:
     - renamed from README-contrib.
     - update instructions how to update .po files.
   * d/TODO: remove some ancient entries and clarify that only the BTS should
     be used in the long term.
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